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		<title>By: LorenzA Arias</title>
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		<dc:creator>LorenzA Arias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 15:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;This is the Cherry on Top:&lt;/b&gt;  After an exhaustive many years long investigation and full documenting, the Colombian Attorney General has presented evidence that Pres. Uribe&#039;s state apparatus DAS (the Colombian CIA or MI5) was put-up for Paramilitary&#039;s use. 

The state apparatus funded persecution, fostered harassment and provided state-secret intelligence files on Human Rights leader and University Professor Correa D&#039;Andreis, several Union members and community organizers, to the right-wing armed militias to cold-bloodily assassinate these people with opposing views, as recently as late 2004.

Click here for report in Spanish  report on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.semana.com/noticias-nacion/responder/123812.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Colombian State Apparatus Responsible for Assasination of Opponents&lt;/a&gt;

It&#039;s clear that the article&#039;s author, Ms. Peacock, a member of the British Labour Party, has zoomed into the important, factual and pressing issue of systematic, state-sponsored HR violations in Colombia. 

The fact that Colombian people perceive that the economy and security have improved is just a perception.  Overall unemployment is at 13% and climbing; Tolima&#039;s state capital is at 20%. Security has improved for people who own land and ranchs located immediately outside the major cities, but not for the average poor Colombian.

Now, two &#039;rights&#039; (perceptions) don&#039;t make a &#039;wrong&#039; (Sponsoring HR violations).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>This is the Cherry on Top:</b>  After an exhaustive many years long investigation and full documenting, the Colombian Attorney General has presented evidence that Pres. Uribe&#8217;s state apparatus DAS (the Colombian CIA or MI5) was put-up for Paramilitary&#8217;s use. </p>
<p>The state apparatus funded persecution, fostered harassment and provided state-secret intelligence files on Human Rights leader and University Professor Correa D&#8217;Andreis, several Union members and community organizers, to the right-wing armed militias to cold-bloodily assassinate these people with opposing views, as recently as late 2004.</p>
<p>Click here for report in Spanish  report on <a href="http://www.semana.com/noticias-nacion/responder/123812.aspx" rel="nofollow">Colombian State Apparatus Responsible for Assasination of Opponents</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that the article&#8217;s author, Ms. Peacock, a member of the British Labour Party, has zoomed into the important, factual and pressing issue of systematic, state-sponsored HR violations in Colombia. </p>
<p>The fact that Colombian people perceive that the economy and security have improved is just a perception.  Overall unemployment is at 13% and climbing; Tolima&#8217;s state capital is at 20%. Security has improved for people who own land and ranchs located immediately outside the major cities, but not for the average poor Colombian.</p>
<p>Now, two &#8216;rights&#8217; (perceptions) don&#8217;t make a &#8216;wrong&#8217; (Sponsoring HR violations).</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel urrego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manuel urrego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 18:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dreyfus

Yea go to Colombia we do defend our President because we are proud to live in a country he has made better it is very dificult for those who have not been.Year to year nothing but progress

URIBE URIBE

PS nobody is perfect</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dreyfus</p>
<p>Yea go to Colombia we do defend our President because we are proud to live in a country he has made better it is very dificult for those who have not been.Year to year nothing but progress</p>
<p>URIBE URIBE</p>
<p>PS nobody is perfect</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Saldariega</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose Saldariega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 18:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JAJAJAJA

yes i&#039;m proud:
-of our president 
-Of the influx of money the cartel generate
-of the bubble we live in
-of being and amazing country

To be sincere the world must know

If it wasn&#039;t for all of you who snorted cocaine and gut junked on crack maybe colombia wouldn&#039;t have so many issues.
Because in colombia we do not snort cocaine and crack jaja is does not exist 

And yes it comes from the mafia of Italy, Japan, USA, Great Britain, Spain, France, Russia, Ireland,Morroco,Mexico, Germany and others
who develpoed vast corrupt networks

You should all worry about you own issues and about how your decisions affect other country and stop exploting third world country&#039;s look what the world has  done to china have you ever seen the living standards they are summited to and yet your house is full of MADE IN CHINA, VIETNAM,INDONISEA ETC

At least we live in country were our president has a great aprroval rating that at moments has been up to 80%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JAJAJAJA</p>
<p>yes i&#8217;m proud:<br />
-of our president<br />
-Of the influx of money the cartel generate<br />
-of the bubble we live in<br />
-of being and amazing country</p>
<p>To be sincere the world must know</p>
<p>If it wasn&#8217;t for all of you who snorted cocaine and gut junked on crack maybe colombia wouldn&#8217;t have so many issues.<br />
Because in colombia we do not snort cocaine and crack jaja is does not exist </p>
<p>And yes it comes from the mafia of Italy, Japan, USA, Great Britain, Spain, France, Russia, Ireland,Morroco,Mexico, Germany and others<br />
who develpoed vast corrupt networks</p>
<p>You should all worry about you own issues and about how your decisions affect other country and stop exploting third world country&#8217;s look what the world has  done to china have you ever seen the living standards they are summited to and yet your house is full of MADE IN CHINA, VIETNAM,INDONISEA ETC</p>
<p>At least we live in country were our president has a great aprroval rating that at moments has been up to 80%.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonel de las Casas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonel de las Casas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 17:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soy admirador de nuestro president igual que la mayoria de los colombianos miren las encuestas, visiten Colombia y dejen de rajar de la patria.
Aunque no es  perfecto que politico en la historia del Mundo lo ha sido?

Como dice en el comentario de c patino desde su primer dia al mandato todo el pais ha mejorado vengan y conozcan no critiquen a su pueblo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soy admirador de nuestro president igual que la mayoria de los colombianos miren las encuestas, visiten Colombia y dejen de rajar de la patria.<br />
Aunque no es  perfecto que politico en la historia del Mundo lo ha sido?</p>
<p>Como dice en el comentario de c patino desde su primer dia al mandato todo el pais ha mejorado vengan y conozcan no critiquen a su pueblo.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Patino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Patino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 17:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok let someone name better president than Uribe. Look at his progress from his first to present it will show a constant progress in al issues from tourism both national and international, unemployment, kidnappings, murders etc.  How can you forget the style of living of Colombia in the 90&#039;s???? During his period the most dangerous criminals have been put away. If you can prove that we have had no progress and that we were better as a country seven years ago I&#039;ll listen but until then visit Colombia for buisness or vacation and your opinion will change as you will no longer encounter a third world country. And to those that say uribe is a paramilitary you should read why they were actually created and then understand the death of CCG and the process of Paz y justicia.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok let someone name better president than Uribe. Look at his progress from his first to present it will show a constant progress in al issues from tourism both national and international, unemployment, kidnappings, murders etc.  How can you forget the style of living of Colombia in the 90&#8217;s???? During his period the most dangerous criminals have been put away. If you can prove that we have had no progress and that we were better as a country seven years ago I&#8217;ll listen but until then visit Colombia for buisness or vacation and your opinion will change as you will no longer encounter a third world country. And to those that say uribe is a paramilitary you should read why they were actually created and then understand the death of CCG and the process of Paz y justicia&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Fernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 07:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dreyfus, what a compelling ammount of evidence!!! What are you waiting for to go to the Courts? But I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll do it... you probably are just one more of Uribe&#039;s hitmen that didn&#039;t get his pay and is very pissed. Moreover, following your logic it seems that the next dead is going to be you. You know too much, and it all points out that you have evidence of what you say because you actually have been witness of all these atrocities. So check out your helicopters propeller (propeller no propel, bobo pirovo)next time you go for a ride. By the way, the past tense of fall is not falled, it&#039;s fell. De manera, ya que ud. es el que le esta poniendo el tono al pseudodebate este, pedazo de guevon, porque mas bien no me habla en espanol con eso nos insultamos mas sabroso si de eso es que se trata... vale? Oiga, de donde saca tanta basura? No le da verguenza escribir tanta carajada junta? No le da pena con la gente hacer tanta conjetura pendeja? Se le va a caer la mano de tanto pajearse esa cabeza, oiga!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dreyfus, what a compelling ammount of evidence!!! What are you waiting for to go to the Courts? But I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll do it&#8230; you probably are just one more of Uribe&#8217;s hitmen that didn&#8217;t get his pay and is very pissed. Moreover, following your logic it seems that the next dead is going to be you. You know too much, and it all points out that you have evidence of what you say because you actually have been witness of all these atrocities. So check out your helicopters propeller (propeller no propel, bobo pirovo)next time you go for a ride. By the way, the past tense of fall is not falled, it&#8217;s fell. De manera, ya que ud. es el que le esta poniendo el tono al pseudodebate este, pedazo de guevon, porque mas bien no me habla en espanol con eso nos insultamos mas sabroso si de eso es que se trata&#8230; vale? Oiga, de donde saca tanta basura? No le da verguenza escribir tanta carajada junta? No le da pena con la gente hacer tanta conjetura pendeja? Se le va a caer la mano de tanto pajearse esa cabeza, oiga!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dreyfus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dreyfus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 06:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fernandez: It happens I&#039;m not so polite as Lorenza. For me you´re a stupid moron that falled in love with Uribe. Period. For 38 million of Colombians, Alvaro Uribe Velez is a drug dealer, corrupt politician and a coward assassine.
Perhaps you never read the DEA list with the 104 more notorious drug dealers in 1991. Your criminal and obnoxious President appears in the number 82. It´s not my invention. You can write to the NSA in Washington DC. It´s public record. 
As Governor of Antioquia, Uribe was the planner and main supporter of the massacre in El Aro. However, smartly evil, he put &quot;in charge&quot; of the criminal operation his Secretary of Government and closed friend, Pedro Juan Moreno Villa. He was killed 3 years ago, when his chopper lost the propela already in the air. Everything indicated it was a sabotage. Indeed, very convenience for Uribe. No witness.......
A couple months ago, it was murdered a priest, former Uribe&#039;s confessor in Medellin.......3 weeks ago, it was killed the Paramilitary Villalba, who pointed his finger toward Uribe as author intelectual of the massacre in El Aro......A Paramilitary named Job, was killed just one weeks after he was illegaly visiting the Nariño&#039;s House....and the deaths continue counting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fernandez: It happens I&#8217;m not so polite as Lorenza. For me you´re a stupid moron that falled in love with Uribe. Period. For 38 million of Colombians, Alvaro Uribe Velez is a drug dealer, corrupt politician and a coward assassine.<br />
Perhaps you never read the DEA list with the 104 more notorious drug dealers in 1991. Your criminal and obnoxious President appears in the number 82. It´s not my invention. You can write to the NSA in Washington DC. It´s public record.<br />
As Governor of Antioquia, Uribe was the planner and main supporter of the massacre in El Aro. However, smartly evil, he put &#8220;in charge&#8221; of the criminal operation his Secretary of Government and closed friend, Pedro Juan Moreno Villa. He was killed 3 years ago, when his chopper lost the propela already in the air. Everything indicated it was a sabotage. Indeed, very convenience for Uribe. No witness&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
A couple months ago, it was murdered a priest, former Uribe&#8217;s confessor in Medellin&#8230;&#8230;.3 weeks ago, it was killed the Paramilitary Villalba, who pointed his finger toward Uribe as author intelectual of the massacre in El Aro&#8230;&#8230;A Paramilitary named Job, was killed just one weeks after he was illegaly visiting the Nariño&#8217;s House&#8230;.and the deaths continue counting.</p>
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		<title>By: Fernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 23:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LorenzA, forgot to tell you: Of course, you are absolutely right that the actions of some criminals do not preclude the actions of the others. Nobody is saying that. The problem with &quot;you and your buddies&quot; is that you are always omitting the FACT that left-wing radicals like FARC are also systematic HR violators, they&#039;ve massacred peasants and indigenous, intimidate, kidnap and/or dissapear those who oppose them (including community leaders, trade unionists, journalists, polititians, and so on and so forth) with the nod of many polititians and NGO&#039;s in Colombia and around the world, like commanders-in-chief Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro or the kids of the T-shirts (Fighters and Lovers?) . You guys don&#039;t entering into these kinds of details, and since you don&#039;t, you &quot;carry the risk&quot; of being labeled &quot;guerrillera&quot;, just as &quot;you and your buddies&quot; label Uribe&#039;s followers &quot;paracos&quot; &quot;motisierreros&quot;..... come on.. you name it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LorenzA, forgot to tell you: Of course, you are absolutely right that the actions of some criminals do not preclude the actions of the others. Nobody is saying that. The problem with &#8220;you and your buddies&#8221; is that you are always omitting the FACT that left-wing radicals like FARC are also systematic HR violators, they&#8217;ve massacred peasants and indigenous, intimidate, kidnap and/or dissapear those who oppose them (including community leaders, trade unionists, journalists, polititians, and so on and so forth) with the nod of many polititians and NGO&#8217;s in Colombia and around the world, like commanders-in-chief Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro or the kids of the T-shirts (Fighters and Lovers?) . You guys don&#8217;t entering into these kinds of details, and since you don&#8217;t, you &#8220;carry the risk&#8221; of being labeled &#8220;guerrillera&#8221;, just as &#8220;you and your buddies&#8221; label Uribe&#8217;s followers &#8220;paracos&#8221; &#8220;motisierreros&#8221;&#8230;.. come on.. you name it.</p>
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		<title>By: Arias Lorenza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arias Lorenza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; Colombia: End Threats to Unionists, Rights Workers - &lt;b&gt;
http://www.hrw.org/americas/colombia
&lt;b&gt;Terror, Extra-judicial Executions and Disappearances in Colombia - &lt;/b&gt;
http://www.derechos.org/nizkor/colombia/eng.html
&lt;b&gt;Colombia Human Rights Report 2008 - &lt;/b&gt;
http://www.cpt.org/work/colombia/human_rights/2008 

&lt;b&gt;You may be entitled to your opinion, but NOT to your own facts.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> Colombia: End Threats to Unionists, Rights Workers &#8211; </b><b><br />
<a href="http://www.hrw.org/americas/colombia" rel="nofollow">http://www.hrw.org/americas/colombia</a><br />
</b><b>Terror, Extra-judicial Executions and Disappearances in Colombia &#8211; </b><br />
<a href="http://www.derechos.org/nizkor/colombia/eng.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.derechos.org/nizkor/colombia/eng.html</a><br />
<b>Colombia Human Rights Report 2008 &#8211; </b><br />
<a href="http://www.cpt.org/work/colombia/human_rights/2008" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpt.org/work/colombia/human_rights/2008</a> </p>
<p><b>You may be entitled to your opinion, but NOT to your own facts.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Arias Lorenza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arias Lorenza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;(Part III)&lt;/b&gt; Smoke screens are always a good way to divert attention, but I&#039;ll stick to the subject.

The current Colombian government is a systematic Human Rights PERPETRATOR and a MAFIA-RUN STATE as evidenced here:       

&lt;b&gt;Colombia Drug Lord &#039;Funded Uribe&#039; -&lt;/b&gt; http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8015555.stm 
&lt;b&gt;Colombian Militia Boss: We Burned Hundreds of Bodies -&lt;/b&gt; http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=333321&amp;CategoryId=12393  
&lt;b&gt; Human Rights Concerns in Colombia-&lt;/b&gt; 
http://www.amnestyusa.org/annualreport.php?id=ar&amp;yr=2008&amp;c=COL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&lt;(Part III)</b> Smoke screens are always a good way to divert attention, but I&#8217;ll stick to the subject.</p>
<p>The current Colombian government is a systematic Human Rights PERPETRATOR and a MAFIA-RUN STATE as evidenced here:       </p>
<p><b>Colombia Drug Lord &#8216;Funded Uribe&#8217; -</b> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8015555.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8015555.stm</a><br />
<b>Colombian Militia Boss: We Burned Hundreds of Bodies -</b> <a href="http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=333321&amp;CategoryId=12393" rel="nofollow">http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=333321&amp;CategoryId=12393</a><br />
<b> Human Rights Concerns in Colombia-</b><br />
<a href="http://www.amnestyusa.org/annualreport.php?id=ar&amp;yr=2008&amp;c=COL" rel="nofollow">http://www.amnestyusa.org/annualreport.php?id=ar&amp;yr=2008&amp;c=COL</a></p>
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