why are mps so corrupt

Its a shame that people fail to recongise that its the same councilors who failed in their duties to the local community which let the BNP in, in the first place. As a resident in Barking and Dagenham I would say that Margaret Hodge MP deserves a lot of credit for the work and support she gives the local labour party in their fight against the BNP without her and the countless volunteers from our community then we would be looking at a BNP Council come the next election and that would be a real shame on all of us. Maybe those who claim to be fighting the BNP should be putting their effort into doing work on the gound rather then bad mouthing the Labour Party.

On reading the article and then the comments, it appears that Ms Hodge only has one supporter, and that begs the question why?

Mr Singh states that Ms Hodge should be congratualted for the support she gives the Barking party, well thats one way of looking at it, certainly not the view of national papers on looking at her expenses.

And perhaps Mr Singh needs to be reminded that the comments made by Ms Hodge just days before the 2006 elections were very very damaging to Labour councillors.

On looking through the local election votes in 2006 I note with interest the votes cast for the members named in your article, it looks to me as though their voters are very happy with them, and thats what counts Mr Ashley Singh the people who put their cross on the ballot paper, not what the MP wants or the corrupt bunch of people that now claim they are going to solve all the problems.

Give it a rest, if they get elected just wait for the trouble to start.

I cannot comment on who or what Mr Alf Moore has learned from members of the London Regional Board but what he does say causes me and should cause everyone great concern. If as Mr Moore has indicated persons who did the interviews have been gossiping with all and sundry then this is a major breach in confidentiality and should be tackled at the highest level within the Labour Party and I certainly hope it is. Because I and many others who have read these comments believe them to be slander.

Mr Moore seems to think that just going out once a week knocking on doors is going to do the trick, when is he and others going to realise that people like the councillors he has named and others who have been deselected because they were on a hit list, work in their wards 7 days a week, not just one morning at the weekend.

And anyway Mr Moore its the residents who elect their Councillors not so called party officials and I think you will find that out as the time goes on.

I would like to point out to Alf Moore who claimes to have been given confidential information from the London Labour Party Regional Board. that I am shocked that such information had been divulged, but hey ho what has subsequently gone on in Cllr Barn’s selection means that I am not too surprised. Cllr. Barns was not one of those who could not answer basic questions, he was in fact turned down for being unable to do campaigning. On appeal that decision was over turned. Cllr Barns has campaigned together with M.Hodge MP and myself. We have recently delivered 1600 leaflets in Thames Ward, campaigned with M.Hodge in both Thames Ward and Vallence Ward, so please refrain from saying he does not work. Please note that he was Mayor 2007/08 and Deputy Mayor in 2008/09 when time was of an essence. During those years he never missed a surgery. So I suggest that you get your facts right before opening your mouth and letting in the BNP. If every Labour Cllr had the support enjoyed by Cllr Barns (proof of which can be seen by petitions and letters to the press) there would be no need for concern about the BNP or any other party. As for the discraceful short listing meeting which was chaired by Mr.George Shaw, the saga goes on. Watch this space. At the end of the day the people in Thames Ward will show their anger at the ballot box in 2010. God help us.

As a resident of Thames Ward where Cllr Fred Barnes Serves I am appalled by the shabby way he has been teated,although I am not surprised.Personal matters should not be the issue but what Fred has done for all the residents on Thames Ward.Can someone please tell me why Ms.Hodge came door Knocking on my estate telling us she had 2 wonderful coucillors?and that was before Fred Barnes and Joan Rawlinson new they had been deselected.What a sad state of affairs when 1 man can do so much damage to the party he says he loves.count the votes at the next election!

Just thought I would pass on our thanks to M Hodge and her cronies, they have exceeded our wildest hopes, and by taking out the most popular, and the most hardworking councillors in Barking, and by also ensuring those they could not get rid of are made to go into new wards that we hold, they have done our job for us.

We will walk through Barking in the local elections, and some of the people close to M Hodge know this.

The so called leaders of Barking labour party really should be more careful who you trust, how do you think we could make announcements in the council chamber about deselections months before they had happened.

There is a lot to be said for keeping your friends close but your enemies closer, and you probably had no idea just how close your enimies were.

Politics is a dirty business.

“Close Friend” (above) is obviously a BNP party member or supporter. Sad to say, he/she is right. Barking’s local Labour Party has played right into their hands, by paving the way for many residents to vote for them in the local elections next year. The dirty tricks campaign is alive and well and working from North Street. George Shaw should know better at his age. For a senior citizen, who was at one time a leading Council officer and a Mayor of this Borough to behave in such a nasty and spiteful manner is nothing short of disgusting and beggars belief. He ignored the rules, and used a personal hatred of Fred Barns to ruin the Thames Ward residents chances of keeping a concerned and caring Councillor to look after their interests.

Will these new candidates, who neither know the people or understand their problems, ever do any good for the ward? I don’t think so. I have been told that to see Barry Poulton, you must meet on his doorstep or at his garden gate, for the whole world to see, and possibly hear. Where is the privacy in that? Why doesn’t he hold a surgery like other Councillors? His main concern seems to be the state of the rubbish in the ward, and is indeed known locally as ‘the rubbish man’. How Apt.

Let’s not forget Joan Rawlinson, who has worked for years for Scrattons Farm Estate (an almost forgotten part of the ward). Will Barry Poulton, who is never seen on Scrattons Farm, work as hard for the estate as she did? I don’t think so. Joan is so disgusted with the way she has been treated that she has decided not to carry on as a Councillor for Thames Ward. This a great loss to Thames Ward as a whole.

The Labour Party has shot itself in the foot, especially in the light of the expenses scandal. For an old man who should know better, to be able to use the overall welfare of this Borough, to score points in a personal fight against a Councillor, is nothing short of disgusting. I was once asked to join the Labour Party, but I am not a political animal, and I refused. Thank God.

People who know what is going on are angry, and the local elections next year will reflect their anger.

George Shaw should be ashamed of himself, but I doubt he is.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD A WORD OF ADVICE FOR THE LABOUR PARTY , As clearly you miss-understand the concept of RULES

Rules are tobe kept and adhered too ………….. Somene needs to point out to Mr George Shaw – Chair of the Labour Party that only RECORDS are for BREAKING ! ! !

Dare I ask what online petition please?

In my opinion in his time George Shaw has been a very dedicated public servant, in lots of his many roles.

However with his public feud with Cllr Barnes (which has been going on for several years) he has totally lost the respect of the many people like me that admired him. He is using the selection and de- selection for the 2010 local elections as part of this feud to the cost of all the residents of Thames Ward. The outcome of this will mean that Thames Ward will loose a very dedicated and hard working (Not to mention well liked and greatly respected Cllr).

This in no way will help the Labour Party gain a majority in the local elections. If half of the allegations stated above about the selection procedure are true and I have no reason to believe they are not, then I would urge the Labour Party to enquire further into the way these procedures were carried out.

Margeret Hodge has only recently been seen on a regular basis on Thames View Estate.This is not because she wants to help local residents ( as she says ) but because she knows that Labour has well and truly lost the support it once had.WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!You have allowed one man to dictate the outcome of an important decision YOU ARE AS MUCH TO BLAME IF NOT MORE!! As for our friendly neighbourhood bufoon who ruined his ballot paper well what can I say.Where the Hell Were You When The Council Wanted To Move All The Residents From Maud Gardens!!You Live There You Idiot!!I have voted labour all my life this little circus has left a nasty taste in my mouth so I will not be supporting labour in 2010 unless Fred Barnes and Joan Rawlinson Stand……..No..Well Theres a Surprise!!!!

A message to Mr George Shaw (that is if has knows how to use internet!? as he is as out of date as all the rubbish he spouts!!)

You have well & truly lost this one for Labour & Margaret Hodge MP, who needs enimies with friends like you Mr Shaw !!!!

watch you lose every labour seat in Thames ward in 2010 hope your happy with yourself now.

I am appalled at how this has panned out. Alok Agrawal has served the Becontree ward with dedication and distinction and I have personally seen improvements in the state of road repairs on my road as a result. He is a beacon of strength against the very real threat of more BNP councillors in the area. He works tirelessly for the local labour party and he is always ready to serve and be the host, using his accommodation at Becontree Avenue as a venue for meetings. What a travesty

Neil Kinnock did a grand job in the past of getting rid of the Militant Tendency from Labour’s ranks.
Sadly it seems that some of them just became sleepers. Waiting for the moment to strike back.
Well, looking at what is happening in Barking makes you realise that the Militant Tendency is back in town (Barking that is).
It seems that a select few are intent on achieving their own ends, never mind about socialist ideals.
WAKE UP GORDON BROWN!!

I have just read in the Dagenham Post that our councillor Fred Barns will not be able stand as a candidate in Thames Ward at the next election. This is because George Shaw, chairman of the Thames Labour Ward has a personal vendetta against him and also works for our MP. M.Hodge in her constituency Labour office. What on earth is this all about? We are aware that Mr. Shaw has issues with concillor Barns, we have witnessed his viscious attacks in meetings such as Tenants and residents meetings, Neighbourhood Partnership meetings etc. These were reported to both the Leader of the Council and the Chief executive. I must point out the Councillor Barns took these attacks with dignaty and I never on any occasion heard him retalliate. I also read in the same paper under the heading “Dirty tricks story” that Dominic Twomey secretary to the Barking and Dagenham Labour Party said”that M.Hodge. MP.was completely independent from the selectiom process” he also stated “that what is important is ensuring the best people for the job and concerns of resdents are taken up” Strange! I now discover that D.Twomey has been short listed for Thames Ward together with others who work for Matgaret Hodge. Please don’t insult our intelegence D.Twomey in saying that the short list was completely independent.
You may fool some of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all the people all of the time. Is the Leader of the Council able to put right the injustices in the selection process which have been rife throughout the borough?

A disturbing fact seems to have been overlooked.
When selections are arranged a report has to be made on all the presently standing Councillors.

Months ago the reports for the three Councillors representing Thames Ward were written by Councillor Barry Poulton. How can a Councillor write a report on himself?

Predictably the two Councillors for Thames Ward, Fred Barnes and Joan Rawlinson have been deselected, whilst Barry Poulton is now assured that he has been re-selected.

This strikes of nepotism, and I find the whole matter an even dirtier state of affairs than the rest of it.

A VERY STRANGE STATE OF AFFAIRS.

I certainly will not be voting Labour. With all that is going on within the Labour Party I think the lot of them should be sacked (shame it is not upto us to do it) Fred Barnes is one of the best councillor’s you could wish to have, he will help you no end, if you have a complaint he is on call 24/7 will sort it out and get back to you with an answer, not like your Barry Poulton’s and George Shaw. Every meeting that I have been to on Thames View always ends up with George Shaw having a go at Fred, and Fred never comes back at him. And may I add Councillor Poulton always lets him go on and on so that other people never have a chance to get their say. It will be a sad day if Fred is not reselected, and the BNP get in God Help us all.

I think it’s a good thing that Cllr. Joan Rawlinson and Cllr. Fred Barnes were deselected. Next year they should take a stand, and go independent for Thames Ward. Lets face it, you have more chance of hell freezing over than Labour getting in again. Joan Rawlinson had dedicated 15 years of her life helping people with their problems, she bends over backwards in all cases.
Go Joan & Fred, lets wipe the smirks off their faces next May (especially past it George Shaw) You have so much support!

P.S Barry Poultent, Go crawl under the rock you came from, you never know, you may find some rubbish under there!!

Cllr Alok Agrawal was the first to face the BNP in Barking and Dagenham in the 2005 by-election. He was also one of only 3, yes thats correct 3 labour councillors that actually beat the BNP.

All the other labout councillors in contested seats came in third…(this is quite easy to check.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barking_and_Dagenham_Council_election_2006

So why is the local Labour party so intent to remove a councillor with a proven track record against the BNP

http://www.barking-dagenham.gov.uk/9-democracy/elections/results/elect-by-becontree-05.html

Cllr Agrawal is well known in the area and well liked. He is a local businessman and has run his business for over 20 years. He has worked very hard in the area since becoming councillor n 2005.

He has been deselected on a technicality, that interestingly, was not an issue the last 3 times he was selected to stand and has suddenly become an issue.

I am sure all of you can read between the lines. I just hope the Barking CLP will be happy being the third party in the next elections.

We will vote for Cllr Agrawal but not for the Labour party. Until all the cronies leave the party we dont want to have anything to do with it.

I have read this thread and the pages of the Dagenham Post with mounting concern.I know the people involved, as I spent 20 years working with them.Barking CLP was, formerly, a fairly united and cohesive force, but it is apparent that the MP and her tragic statements before the 2006 local elections, is a devisive force.
The selection process conducted by the Regional Party was basically on the premiss that the Borough Labour Party was too incompetent to pick a decent set of candidates to fight the BNP.
What we have ended up with is a complete pigs ear, whereby the process has been used to settle old scores, and has spilled out into the public domain.
I have no doubt that some of the failed candidates weren’t very articulate or knowledgeable but they are local people who try their best but, in the process we have turned the local press against us (they were pretty angry about the loss of revenue since the Council decided to go into newspaper publishing anyway), and local people are turning against us because of what they read in the Post.
This could all have been scripted by the BNP.

One correction, George Shaw was never Council Leader, only Chair of Housing for many years.

I was an opposition member of the Council in the late 1980’s (that’s norrowed it down to 12 possibles then). I remember having to take my own Council to the Ombudsman regarding Housing policies and allocations. George Shaw as chair of the Housing Committee was thoroughly castigated by the Ombudsman who stated he run the Housing Service as his own ‘personal feifdom’. I personally remember him as a thoroughly unpleasant individual and a total control freak. I don’t think it was me, because I have retained and maintain friendships with people in Barking Labour Party to this day, including present and former Councillors. It’s upsetting, but not surprising, given the individuals involved, to see what’s happening withing the Labour Party in Barking. I hope there can be some resolution quickly, because the thought of a BNP led Council in my home town is to awful to contemplate ..

My father voted for Labour for most of his voting life & I think he would be ashamed of what is going on now, Bob Mellish was our MP and like Councillor Barnes he worked tirelessly for his constituents as does Fred Barnes. I have dealt with Fred for eight years regarding bike problem on Barking Riverside land & one sunday morning at least 50-60 bikes were at the back of my property, noise was horrendous and Fred was going out with his family (which he is entitled to do like most families) and he cancelled his trip to help deal with problem,which showed what a excellent councillor he is. I wonder if Councillor Poulton would have done the same, I have never seen him on our development to see if there is anything he can help with & as for Margaret Hodge she stopped me in Barking town centre, by the old bandstand, & asked If I knew who she was and I replied yes she then asked if there was anything she could help me with, I explained about the bike problem which I have been complaining to the Council, local neighbourhood meetings and Councillor Barnes (who has been the only one helping) she told me she knew nothing of this problem I told her this was brought up at her coffee morning meeting in Christcurch, she quite rudely turned around & walked away. I hope that common sense will prevail in this matter but do not hold much hope. As for George Shaw his policies died with the Ark & Cllr Poulton should not let George Shaw waffle on & let others have their say in Neighbourhood meetings as Cllr Poulton has shut me down very sharply & rudely. I pay my council tax and I am entitled to have my say regarding where I live.

Reply to : disillussioned resident

I do not have the vendtta i am merely point out the facts for all to know !

you just have to read all the other comments to see how Mr George Shaw has rubbed many up the wrong way over the years ….. Rid him from the labour party along with cllr poulton (both are past there sell by dates).

power to cllr rawlinson & cllr barnes keep fighting !

I thought the government were trying to stamp out bullying within schools & workplace, what went wrong here? When I was at work you got recognition for good work obviously something has gone wrong within politics, is it a case of do as I say not as I do. Councillors who do good work get shunted and those who do less get praised, god help us at the next election.

I have just spent the last half hour reading all the comments that everyone has made, and I have this to say. By the sounds of things people are more concerned with playing chinese whispers and gossiping,(which I would like to add that is something you do when you are in school not fully grown adults) then coming together and fighting against the bnp!!!

Concerned Teenager

Far be it from to pull age and rank on someone of your tender teenage years, but I don’t think you quite realise what is happening here.

These are not Chinese whispers or gossip. They are cold hard facts that need to be told to all those concerned with keeping decent people as Councillors

Because of closed shops and dirty fighting the residents who vote are never told the truth of what goes on behind North Street doors, and they should be.

There has been some very dirty fighting, and you should think carefully before castigating these people as children.

It is because of all this dirty fighting that the BNP are revelling in the whole affair. Don’t blame the people giving their opinions, but instead read it all again and see that this is the only way that people can get their opinions heard.

Dear Concerned Teenager, I applaud the fact that you have taken the time to read all the comments, you have failed to understand however the concept of Chinese whispers. A Chinese whisper is when something is said by someone and gradually changed as it is repeated. You should note that the comments being made are very consistant.

Talk about sleaze in the government, expenses and pensions etc. Come to our neck of the woods, Barking and Dagenham to find underhanded deals such as vendettas, control freaks,back stabbing etc. You name it we have got the lot, and that is just in our local Labour party. By the way have you heard the news? Barking and Dagenham have a new batch of immigrants decending on our doorstep. It’s not the europeans or asians etc but surprise surprise,BMP members from all over the country, knowing whats going on in our borough are renting flats staying with friends in order to reside in the borough for the qualifying period so as to be able to stand as candidated at the 2010 elections.
Take note Margaret Hodge, George Shaw and the local Labour Party in this borough.
Oh what a wonderous web we weave when first we venture to deceive.

YOU MUST ASK MR G SHAW TO STAND DOWN AS CHAIR OF THAMES WARD LABOUR PARTY THIS MUST BE DONE

Gordon Brown and the General Secretary of the Labour Party should hear and fully investigate this impartially. (Bearing in mind the London Labour Region are not impartial). Urgent disciplinary action needs to be taken and the offenders thrown out of the Party. Our Ward will be writing to the General Secretary asap. It is so sad to see our local Party crumbling in this manner. Perhaps the shortlisting and selection process needs to be completely done again in a fully supervised correct manner, without the interference and barriers we have had this time around.

Since there is such extreme concern regarding how the short listing of Councillors for Thames Ward was conducted on Thursday 18th June the outcome MUST be declared null and void and another meeting MUST be convened to short list the Councillors that we the people want to serve us and not influenced by a personal vendetta

In my opinion the Labour Party has had its day – enough is enough

For example –

MP’s Expenses – A furore over the exhorbitant expenses they claimed and were PAID by us the tax payer

MP’s Pension – Debating to give THEMSELVES an increase in their alreadY golden Pension which would cost us [the people they purport to work for] £800.000 and the MP’s a mere £67 per mpnth from their overstuffed wage packets

The Labour Party cannot continue to ignore the people , they MUST put right the farce which was enacted at the short listing for Thames Ward Councillors on the 18th June

Close Friend : Could I please ask what relatives you are talking about ?

Reply to Robert Yes I agree a lot of people in this area are writing with the same style. These Barking people speak as they find and speak the truth not making it up to suck up to Margaret Hodge and her croanies. Makes you wonder if G Shaw is really acting like a true Barking resident! Be proud of where you come from and how you speak and write!!!!

Come and show your support for Cllr Fred Barns & Cllr Joan Rawlinson.

On Sunday 5th July 2009
at 11am
Venue : Mobility Shop inside the Vicarage Field Shopping Centre on upper level

Come and let the Labour Party know your views that we want Fred & Joan!

Can I please ask that if you are proposing to protest on Saturday that you also include an invite to the residents on other wards whose councillors have unfairly and corruptly been deselected, the wards are Becontree Cllr Agrawal, Gascoigne Cllr Val Rush, and it seems Cllr McKenzie has been shifted at the North street mafias request to Dagenham, Valance Cllr Don Hemmett.

As show of combined strength is what works best.

it seems that Jackie is nothing more than a trouble maker,i wonder how she gets her information and who from
as she clearly does not have all the facts,most residents in goresbrook
would not agree that warren northover ,was a good cllr,he rarely attended any meetings,when he did he seemed to fall asleep,he never gave apologies for abscence, and hardly ever communicated with the community over the last couple of years so we dont think he was unfairly deselected
as for the others,who knows the reasons why.JACKIES outcrys seem a little suspect,as do some of the other letters,it seems someone is doing a little stirring of the fire
it will not solve anything but more bad feelings and alienate even mre people,forcing them to take sides and divide the communities more,what a sad outcome that would be for everyone,and a good one for the BNP
SHAME ON YOU

IN reply to molly, arent you condradicting yourself, arent you attacking everyone at north st, most had nothing to do with what has happened, by referring im a troll,you dont evenknow me,I have not belittled or slagged of any of the people who believe an injustice has been done, I agree that things should be out in the open and sorted out properly, but to tar eveyone with the same brush is morally wrong
and inciting a divide and attacking everyone else because they dont sing from the same hymn sheet as you is just as bad,I HAVE read all the comments and not all of them are from residents,as always when these sort of things happen ,you get a a small amount of mindless morons who will use the situation to cause trouble,lets face it the last few letters wasntanything to do with the original protest, it seems they want to disrupt the whole borogh
you believe what you want to, its yuor choice,but dont attack everyone
at north st or else where who had no part in any decisions made .

It seems the dear lady, Margaret Hodge wants total control of Barking & Dagenham Council. She wants to control 6 wards out of the 11. The 6 on the “Hit List” are Abbey, Gascoigne, Thames, Becontree, Longbridge and Eastbury. If she gets 18 of her Councillors elected she controls the Council. It very much looks as though she will get her way, that is why they got rid off Alok from Becontree, Jeanne from Abbey, Val from Gascoigne, Fred from Thames and others. They will be replaced by Laila Butt, Darren Rodwell, Dominic Twomey, Chris and Linda Rice and others. God Help Us !

A couple of days catching up to do this evening, and I have to say that it only takes one or two flies in the ointment for healthy debate and discussion to turn into a slanging match.

It does appear that disillusioned resident appears to take offence at anyone who attacks North Street or the practices operating out of there labeling all who are not in that camp but support their councillors as “mindless morons” How would he/she be able to tell that all who post on here are not residents?

And as for Ashley Singh, I dont believe there is any need to involve Dagenham in this matter, I believe that it has already been mentioned in a previous post that Dagenham are totally separate from Barking when it comes to these matters.

AS then goes onto tell us that he/she can see no further need for this or articles in the local paper to continue. Well that is one view point I suppose, I am pretty sure the Labour Party would love it if everybody shut up and let themselves be walked over, and as for raising the matter of damage to the party, are you for real? do you not read the national newspapers, do you not recognize the mortal damage that has already been done to the party by MPs and others, please rest assured this matter in Barking may very well just put a suffering animal to rest.

But at the same time could give rise to a more democratic party that is prepared as the majority of people who have posted on here to be open and honest. which listens to its voters, and has the courage to say we were wrong, we misjudged the mood of the electorate, and thereby re-instate those members who have been de-selected and start to bring back a true Labour Party to Barking.

Regarding Mr Ashley Singh

Were you there on the 18th. If you were why are you trying to stop people having their say, and the papers from reporting what went on?

If you weren’t there, I suggest you keep your your silly mouth shut.

Support our hardworking cllr Fred Barns

Say NO Fred NO Vote to Labour !

Details of where to get your window poster will be posted on here later today

The reason that I am writing on this forum is because I am truly dedicated to getting the BNP out of Barking and Dagenham. I am fed up to the back teeth of this ongoing saga, and the rudeness of some of those involved. I can’t stress enough in my comments that the party members should be talking to each other through the right methods that are available and there ARE things available rather then this forum and the local press. It’s not about democracy or hiding things from the public, but the fact that we are damaging our party. The BNP are laughing at Labour’s inability to communicate with each other, and sort out our own politics without washing our dirty laundry in public. They really do have the upper hand at the moment. I have decided not to continue contributing to these discussions as the majority of comments being made are those who are fighting their own agendas and not for the good of our party or our borough. My family and I will continue in our work on the ground to try and undo the damage that is going on to prevent the BNP gaining more support and hope that as many of you as possible will join us rather then using every opportunity to slate each other. Come 2010 lets hope we wont all be hanging our heads in shame as the first BNP council take control.

A mate of mine has just sent me a link to this. I’m interested in joining the Labour Party.

What a joke!

These councillors on a basic of £10,006. Some of them mentioned are getting £17,510 on top of this. But we’ve never seen any of them. They don’t knock on doors and I’ve never received a leaflet from one of them.

Now, when their necks are on the line they suddenly want an audience.

Barking Labour Party must be doing something right – at last!

I don’t want the BNP running my community.

If Labour can demonstrate locally that it’s finally getting its act together, count me in.

I think the councillors should be selected for election on their merit basis other then any other grounds e.g.supporting friends, family etc etc etc.

As far as I am concerned as a resident in Thames ward the most supported councillor were Fred Barns and I am very disappointed to learn that Fred were deselected, and at the same time I am pleased that the selection panel accepted his appeal.

As a community activist I will urge the relevant personals, authorities and others involved in the selection process to make sure a winning cadidate to be selected to avoid a BIG disappointment by losing all or most seats to the BNP candidates.

As a labour party suppoter I will be happy to see the local selected councillors to win in the next year’s election. Fred is a very likely winning cadidate in Thames Ward.

Many Thanks.

In reply to Mary fields (dagenham Residents) early morning entry I am very suprised to hear Margaret Hodge is Knocking on doors in Dagenham as she is not your MP she is ours in Barking dear oh dear! Also you would surley not be expecting to have our thames Ward councillor Fred Barns knocking on your dagenham door when he is busy working for us in barking. Lets remember from earlier comments Barking Labour Party and Dagenham Labour Party are seperate and it would seem Margaret Hodge wants to get her cronies into Barking Wards. So back to the origanal points Thames Ward residents want the injustices reversed in this selection process and Fred Barns to be our Candidate for councillor at the next election. Also in reply to the earlier comment we are not schoolchildren we are adults and unlike some of you dont have large budgets to promote ourselves we are doing what we can and let the snowball effect keep rolling. We want Fred Barns as our councillor.

To Baffled from dagenham I dont see any comments from Cllr Fred Barns on here so I dont think your comment about discouraging councillors from making disparaging remarks is fair.

As far as I know residents of thames Ward do still have freedom of speech.

As for giving advise to new candidates I am sure they have had enough coaching from there sponser Margaret Hodge.

I would agree that the main aim of any political party is to dispel its main threat but unfortunately for Labour on Thames ward that is Margaret Hodge and her side kick George Shaw. Please keep to the facts and help us get the barking labour party to accept the foul play that has been done here in Thames Ward.

I am totally disillusioned with both local and central government, and their dirty dealings. A cynic once said that a democracy is a place where you are free to do as you are told. How true this is of the Barking Constituency Labour Party! I for one will not be renewing my Labour Party membership.

I do hope the residents from Thames do not mind me posting on here in support of Val and keeping you up to date with what we are doing.

Like yourselves we have a massive petition ongoing, people and groups who Val has helped along the way overr the last 15 years are contacting us and signing up. We have also been made aware that there is a large petition being collected among the trade unions.

We are also in the process of collecting evidence of the lies, and mis-leading evidence that has been presented to London Region and spread around by North Street. We have had a lot of help on this some of which has been from a most unexpected source, certainly the evidence collected about the person who wants to replace her on the ward is very explosive.

We also have a fighting fund, people in the Borough are really generous especially if its to help a person they really do care about.

We have also sought independent legal advice, and have found that even in the policies and procedures of the Labour Party they are still required to operate within the Human Rights Act, and cannot therefor discriminate on disability, like they first tried with Fred, sexism, or race. And it has been reported to us that there has been a breach of party rules on these last 2 grounds.

We will continue to campaign for Val and one way or another she will be our Councillor on the Gascoigne, and take note Labour No Val No Vote for Labour.

I do wish that people would stop remarking on these red herrings on here as we all know that their is a very fishy smell and the whole system of selection process stinks. I am not ashamed to put my name to my comment as We need to stop these distractions and stick to our original reasons which is to make people aware that Cllr Fred Barns was allowed to be unfairly treated by one person holding a vendetta ( chair of labour party Mr George Shaw ), As a direct result of the corruption on the evening of 18th June selection panel meeting Our harding working councillor Mr Fred Barns will not be standing to represent the Thames Ward in 2010 elections ( please see this weeks POST for full story) The whole process needs to be re-cast in the proper way without further delay.

Many of us on Thames Ward have known Fred Barns for many years from back when he was a long standing borough officer working tirelessly for the community and youth of this ward , He has a proven track record and has been our ward councillor for the last 2 elections and has been a loyal labour party member , hardworking, capable, efficient, councillor whom is an asset to the labour party he has not only attracted the most votes on the ward elections over the past years but this in it’s self must speak volumes to the labour party. I believe in the old saying “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” ask yourself why would we want to change to the unknown of new councillors in this ward.

Lets support Cllr Fred Barns and make sure the the labour party stick to the rules and cast the whole selection process again.

Remember it is us the residents of this ward whom pay our hard earned money to live in Thames ward , we pays our money let us make our choice of whom we want to work as councillors on this ward !!! ( i am not staying don’t select new members to stand along side our current hardworking councillors as the ballot box will say whom we the people want !!) if Labour do not see this huge mistake that has been allowed to happen by one mans error’s and personal issues this could be the end for labour in this ward and that would be a shame.

**advice**for the people in other wards whom have problem with the loss of councillors you need to contact the post & tribune and other news papers get your voices heard this will really help good luck

Can I respond to David in Dagenham and also thank Julie Munroe in Thames Ward for pointing out to David what the rules are.

David you have obviously not read the article that set off this thread, there were a number of councillors mentioned in the article, J Denyer, F Barns and Val Rush plus it was noted that others had also been deselected.

So to try and stir things up with supporters of different members is a very stupid and silly thing to do, there is no split in the camp and you put it, information, ideas and suggestions can and will be suggested across the campaigns, a lot of residents on the Gascoigne know Fred Barns through his work as the Principal youth officer and also the support he gave in the ward during his time as Mayor and Dep Mayor, in the same way as a lot of residents in Thames will know Val Rush.

So your very stupid attempt to provoke a row is just that a stupid attempt.

And if as you say you are considering joining the Labour Party as a resident of Dagenham you will of course come under Dagenham CLP and not Barking, and what we are being told and I am sure Thames are to is that party members and councillors are very supportive of Fred and Val, so we wouldnt advise you to go to a party meeting over there shouting your mouth of like this.

Well Done John. If you were in my ward I would vote for you. I have always found you to be a hard working and decent man who has the best interests of the many and the Borough.

John Denyer has stated what he intends to stand as an independent. He has shown he has some convictions.

This whip thing sounds like it’s being used as a smoke screen.

If it is something that you have to abide by if you are a member of a group of councillors but you don’t intend to be part of that group, then surely it no longer applies to you?

We deserve to know where the other councillors stand. Are they with John, or not?

You must see that you cannot keep drawing down the salary of being councillor under one banner if you don’t intend to stand under that banner.

Where stand you, Mrs Rush and Mr Barns?

Do you support John Denyer in his principled stand?

The taxpayers who pay your salaries need to know.

We in Barking are very ashamed at what some of our peoples are doing. We realy do like and support our councilors jean alexander and next door val rush.

But some peoples have said that they want there positions they wants them for all of the wrong reasons not to do good for the peoples in Barking but for themselfs.

the woman who is trying to force out mrs jean is a bad woman and brings shame on her family and on Islam and we have tried to talk to her but she will not listens to us.

the same it is with man and woman forcing out mrs val they is bad peoples

so we now say we will not support this we will note vote for these bad peoples and we will not have our centre used for politics meetings this is bring shame on all of us.

In reply to “Rose” thank you for wishing Fred Barns well. As to the number of votes cast for him on shortlisting night I am afraid you are misled. There were in fact 6 votes for and 6 votes against.

take it from someone who was present the 6 votes against were Chairman George Shaw his wife Olive his daughter Pam his friend Christine and two of his neighbours who have never attended a ward meeting before or even met fred.

As it was a tie George Shaw took it upon himself to have the casting vote therefore cllr Barns was knocked of the shortlist by one vote.

Two other supporters of Cllr Fred Barns were not allowed into the meeting to cast their vote on a technicality which is being disputed and a complaint lodged.

While I salute and applaud the residents from across the different wards in Barking who are campaigning to keep the Councillors who have worked hard for them and who they trust and respect, please do not loose sight of the bigger picture.

While it is true that G Shaw subverted the rules to make sure that his personal vendetta against Fred won through. Chairmans lies and abuse of the process in Gascoigne against Val Rush.All part of the bigger plot cooked up by North street in her attempt to control

night shift worker from Barking :
Date: June 29, 2009 @ 5:50 am

In reply to above.

I do not think that the labour party know the amount of damage they have done to the party as a whole.

The labour party’s reputation has been damaged beyond repair ………… many of the north street trolls have indeed been stabbing each other in back and Mr G Shaw has been used to bait the honey trap as it is he whom has damaged his own once good reputation in the process of stabbing Cllr Barns & Cllr Rawlinson in the back.

I agree with the comments on here that the labour party will not win new seat in barking but indeed lose many in this unfair process as people will not forgive or forget and the post will not be next weeks chip paper

With reference to the very brief and vitriolic comments by Labour Loud and Proud.

Why does it always seem that any postings on here that appear to come from the North street mafia are abusive and nasty.

How can this person who has posted possibly know the work that these councillors have put in, and certainly not just on one morning a week.

Please unless you can post in a sensible manner then dont bother coming on here with your abuse.

Reply to comments made by disillussioned resident :

Seems very strange that you will not put your name to your comments (as many on here have) My guess this is because under labour party members rules of remit you should not be airing your views on here. The democratic process in this selection stinksas much as the selection nite of 18th june meeting.
Hope you have read the comments on here very carfully as it clearly shows that Thames ward has only 2 hard working cllrs thus being Fred Barns and Joan Rawlinson

So we all have to trot over to Dagenham then. Well can we stay there then please working for a true constituency MP Jon Cruddas who realy knows and cares about the people he serves.

Why did Barking get the short straw and end up with an MP who just wants to control not serve.

When was the last time M Hodge mention Barking in the house of commons.

When did she ever do anything practical in the borough,all of her claims are actually for works done by councillors.

new venue is :

Roman Catholic Church
Oxlow Lane
Dagenham

AT 11am

5th July 09

How many more dirty trick are going to be played before the north street trolls are stopped.

This cannot be allowed to continue Mr Brown ? you need to step in and take control of this situation before it hits the national newspapers which at this rate will not be very long!

Many years ago when the Labour party was formed, its foundations and rules came out of the trade union movement. And I believe a lot of those procedural rules still apply.

This gives the ordinary members like us to chance to take back our party, there are more of us than there are of them.

They are only officers of the party because we put them there, and we can remove them. A vote of No Confidence in the Chair of a Ward, or of a CLP or of the Local Government committee, or why not all 3.

The power is ours, we can and should i suggest stop this fraudelent selection process in Barking in its tracks now.

I think we would be surprised at the support we would get from other people. And as for officers from London Region, they just need to be reminded that its the grass roots members who pay their wages, and its the grass roots members who call the shots.

dont normally get involved in these anonymous threads. But as this one has become rather amusing i will make an exception. dirty tricks, fishy smells, fraudulent selection the mafia angry resident -another resident – a further resident – disgusted party members – dagenham daves- del boy – close friend- sam and sammi and finally night shift worker we have it all.

Night shift worker Talk of the national papers being involved, well maybe but the ramblings of a few anonymous people on a website viewed by a tiny amount of people wont quite do it.

Rule breaking is bad but where is the proof of it. Lots of stirring going on with no proof.

Has anyone asked about the venue change-probably not. rumour and lies work better i suppose….

In response to geoff deal, I dont think Tribune would be very happy to read that you believe only a “tiny amount of people” read their magazine and look at their website.

And as for you stating there is no proof, well we could ask how would you “know that” but, lets just assure you first that there is proof and plenty of it. Some of which comes from impeccable sources.

“and just for the record there is lots of proof of which you should try reading last weeks post newspaper

so get your facts right before you
leave comments”

I stand corrected sorry, Of course the papers always print the proof i dont know why the saying “dont believe everything you read” was ever said.

Not many facts on this site just a lot of senseless ramblings.

c’mon mr brown put the recession, mp’s expense fiasco and the fight to win the next general election on the back burner and concentrate on the real issues here in barking.

Well our plans seem to be exceeding our wildest dreams.

We havnt had to read up on here for the past few days as information is now coming thick and furious out of North street.

It is amazing how an idea thought up a couple of years ago has with just stroking of their massive egos, and further info and ideas passed on over time brought the Barking labour party to what it is now.

Split, damaged and lets face it if our friends stay in charge, and they are our friends, damaged beyond repair.

just remember keep your enemies closer.

I am appalled that Cllr Barn’s has been ‘forced’ out as a Councillor!! I have never met a more dedicated and considerate Councillor. Cllr Barns has been committed to Barking and Dagenham for more years than I think he would like me to mention. To name a few New Cambell Youth club, the Sports Council and many other Committees/Clubs and the final accolade to be invested as Mayor of Barking and Dagenham.

Fred Barns has always been a credit to the Borough, he has always had time to listen and always did his best to rectify any problems raised. For example even on his holiday in Denmark, he and his wife took time out to watch Barking Ladies Football Team playing in an overseas tournament in Copenhagen, that’s dedication for you.

The members of the Labour party who voted for his de-selection should be ashamed of themselves.

Stop the Party posturing and get the people in the job that can do the job. Fred is a credit to the Borough and will be greatly missed. Re-instate him now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WARNING

The phone lines of Barking party members were red hot last night

It looks like those in control of this selection process have been very selective about which members they have informed about this weekend. It has been discovered that large numbers of paid up party members have not received letters and the first they knew about it was our phone calls.

Could this be because if the wards are inquorate “they can impose ” their candidates.

Come on barking members now is the time to protest.

Whilst writing my last comment I have learned that the new venue for tomorrow’s meeting is not wheelchair accessible, so it seems, with great disappointment I will be excluded from attending as will any others who have mobility issues! How’s that for discrimination on the grounds of disability!!!

R.I.P – LABOUR

Come on Mr Brown wake up and smell the coffee ! ( im sure you read this site! )

This site is filled with truth from the residents of Thames Ward …………. YOU NEED TO SACK THE LOT INCLUDING MS HODGE !!! HOW CAN WE EVER HAVE FAITH IN LABOUR AGAIN IF YOU DON’T COME FORWARD AND PUT THIS COMPLETE MESS RIGHT NOW !!!!

Most of the labour party members have ripped up their labour cards ….. Come on Mr Brown you need our votes or are you going to roll-over and let BNP win seats in Barking ( i never had you down as a FOOL LETTING ONE WOMAN & GEORGE SHAW RUN LABOUR INTO THE GROUND) .

RESTORE OUR FAITH IN LABOUR OR KISS GOOD BYE TO BARKING IN 2010 ELECTIONS – WHICH YOU CAN THANK MS HODGE & GEORGE SHAW FOR !!!

In reply to : geoff deal :
Date: July 4, 2009 @ 8:13 pm

I am keeping a perspective i pay good money to live here in barking! Why are we the residents of barking less important than any other labour party issue ( made be you should look at the larger picture unemployment and house repossessions and the credit crunch has not been helped by the labour party either ) !

How dare you imply that we should forget about the destruction that one man has caused by bringing the labour party in to disrepute by way of his lies and rule breaks!! funny how he has now gone under-ground and has not been seen on Thames View since the evening of the meeting on 18th June.

I do argree that their are a few councillors that do sweet F A …… BUT Cllr Fred Barns is NOT one of them he’s the most hard working i have ever had the pleasure working for the ward in which i live, which is one of the largest wards in Barking & Dagenham.

THIS WHOLE THING STINKS , with the comments like your leaving (geoff deal) we would be better off without labour as you seem to think the labour party should ignore the rules when it comes to barking & dagenham ……. double standards we should not allow !!!!! come on residents lets stick together as we pay their wages Not just Geoff Deal !!!!

Have your say everyone start ringing the newspapers a kick up a stink us the public have a right to know the truth about whats going on !!!!!!!

Well I see the North street mafia trolls have been busy posting on here last night trying to convince the majority that their miniority plan of corruption was the right thing to do. Take geoff deal forget the recession and back corruption Gordon, and disulloshioned resident tells us we should compromise I for one will never compromise with liars and cheats.

So I formally request the NEC of the Labour Party steps in removes the Exec of Barking CLP and LGC and London Region and fully investigates the lot

I add my call to Night Shift worker.

I too formally request that the NEC of the Labour Party steps in to remove the Exec of Barking CLP, the LGC and London Region and holds a full open and transparent investigation into the corruption in the Barking selection process.

I have read the comments on this page and read articles in the Dagenham post and even though I wasnt going to write I felt compelled to today because of earlier comments made suggesting that you had to be a party member to comment (disalussioned resident 10.51pm).

Sorry but I thought it was not just party members who got to vote for their local councillor but everyone. We “normal” folk rely on the local party to do right by us and put up the best candidates forward for the ward not using personal vendettas or guidence from MPs to side step exsisting hard working proven councillors like Fred Barns.

I for one dont trust the labour party BUT would of voted for them if Fred had been the candidate but as he isnt labour will definately not get my vote. I dont want to be a party member but I do have a say who my local Councillor will be and my MP for that matter so roll on the next elections I think Labour might not have such “safe seats” in Barking. People do use their own minds and want to vote for people they know and trust.

I have read with interest the posts over the last few days. It certainly looks to me as though this geoff deal is right up himself, coming out with there are always two sides to a reasoned argument, yes your right there is, but as yet you have not put up a reasoned argument.

Why have the North street mafia chosen to deselect good hard working councillors that have a track record of taking on the BNP and winning.

What track record have those who have lied and cheated to take their seats got none, none whatsoever.

So I too formally call on the NEC of the Labour party remove the Exec of Barking CLP and LGC and the London Regional officer involved and carry out a full open and transparent investigation.

How about that for a reasoned argument g.deal

Just to let you know that I did manage with tremendous difficulty and considerable pain to attend the selection meeting for Thames Ward today. I only managed this with the help of 2 attendees at the meeting and my husband who is my carer.

I was the only member of Thames Ward who did attend. The meeting was therefore as directed in the rules of the Labour Party, made up of executive members of the Labour Party. The procedures of the meeting were carried out correctly. Dominic Twomey, Lynda Rice and Chris Rice did not attend as they have already been selected by other wards.

Cameron Geddes, Barry Poulten and Jose Channer spoke to the meeting and answered questions. After they had left the meeting I requested that a record be made that in my opinion the recent short listing meeting had been wholly unfair in how it had been conducted in the selection of Cllr Fred Barnes.

A vote was then taken on the 3 prospective candidates before us today. They were all unanimously accepted as Thames Ward Labour Party candidates for the local elections next year.

I remain desperately saddened about the unfairness and injustice metered out to Cllr Fred Barnes. It was discourteous and totally unnecessary not to allow him to remain on the short list.

I want to say thank you to disgusted barking resident for your support in understanding and recording just how difficult it was for me to attend given that I have a very debilitating disability.

reply to Sammi Gascoigne campaign for Val Group :
Date: July 5, 2009 @ 12:01 pm

“Why have the North street mafia chosen to deselect good hard working councillors that have a track record of taking on the BNP and winning.”

Where have deselected councillors taken on the bnp and won? Certainly not on the door step where it matters.

if you consider your loose batch of random moans to be a reasoned response to my post then there is no point in going on

Good luck sammi, you will certainly need it

oH I forgot thatthames ward resident
has all the facts, or only one side of them, look closer to homr for the real reason the venue was changed at the last minute, but then again you only want to believe what you want to without asking other people from any side to get true facts. no loose random moans you say,this lost the plot over a hundred comments ago, never take what you hear or told as gospel. you certainly have not checked out both sides of the conflict, how about dirty tricks by cllrs,maybe their actions need to be brought into the equasion, its time to stop the damage now,no one is going to benifit from this continious war in the party except the BNP,and it will be just as much your fault as anyone elses build bridges dont burn them,as some people are trying to do,otherwise everyone will suffer in the long run
and for what, sheer bloodied mindness
you will be pleased to hear that this is the last time that i can be bothered to comment I suppose i will get the usual replies, but that just shows how people dont want a peaceful or reasonable outcome,I feel sorry for them and hope they can come to their senses soon

It was suggested by a friend of mine that as I have insomnia I may like to read this site as an alternative medicine. IT SEEMS THAT THE FEU BETWEEN cLLR

great shame we feels today we are not muslem peoples who want to interfere we enjoyed the friendship and the works that our councillors did.

but now we have 3 muslems in abbey ward and 2 muslem and how you says 1 tokens white man in gascoigne who we are told does not live in barking.

what will happens to the muslem womens who live with violent and cruel husbands who will help them now. what will happen to the young muslem girls who will be sent back to pakistan or other countrys for forced marriages who will helps them now.

these women and girls will no longer feel safe in going for help from councillors we now in the past the good works that was done to protect and help these peoples this will all be gone.

and the white peoples in these wards who will they vote for, we do not interfear we live sides by sides we do not take over this is all wrong manys will suffer

there is great shame in moderate muslems for this evil today

These new councillors never got selected fairly, They was cherry picked by the north street trolls and placed in the selection at the reputation of the labour party by any which way it could be done!

It’s the resident of the wards that have lost good hardworking councillors that have hard to come in putting this mess right through the proper chanels.

WE ALL KNOW THAT IF THIS IS NOT PUT RIGHT SOON ~~~~~ BNP WILL WIN SEATS IN 2010 AND ALL I CAN SAY IS GOOD LUCK TO THEM!, AS MS HODGE HAS HANDED IT TO THEM ON A PLATE SHE MAY ASWELL RETIRE AS DE-SELECTING JOAN, VAL , FRED AND MANY MORE HAS MARKED THE END FOR LABOUR IN BARKING & DAGENHAM

Message for well wisher

Please get back under the bridge with all the other trolls.

Disgusted Barking Resident and the person that left a message for myself, – I wanted to thank you for your comments that go to show how uneducated you really are and hope these enlighten people who are reading messgaes on this site as to your lack of understanding about what has been happening.

Just like I had some well meaning advice for the Labour candidates I also have some for you …. I have heard that the BNP are still looking for people to stand apparently their only requirment is that candidates are half-wits that are good are spreading rumours, gossip and failing that just able to shout out insults – its seems as though you and some others on this site may be in with a good chance. Good Luck!

OH dear well wisher you really do have to get down in the gutter dont you.

Once again the abusive comments about the residents who have posted on here, just goes to show how the local labour party are listening, NOT, and as for your suggestion that the BNP are looking for people to stand, well you only have to look at what the North street mafia have put up, seems to me the BNP win from both sides of the floor.

As we have already been told by persons posting on this site the BNP infiltrated North street months and months ago. And many of us know who as well.

So thanks for your Good luck wishes, justice will out in the end.

Liebour cant even run a selection committee without bending rules and falling out LOL.
Never mind sell some gongs , start a couple of illegal wars , bang some expenses in , sell the working class down the drain . It’s what your leaders do , proud working class voting BNP

Dear Mr who ever you say you are, and believe me when I say that we can read through your posting and make a pretty accurate guess as to who you are.

Your very nasty and abusive comments about Councillor Val Rush are of course a piece of total fiction which we the real residents of the ward can testify to.

So are we going to rise to your stupidity and nastiness at this time NO, but just wait until next May you will have your answer then, we the true residents of the ward will give you our answer, and your name and the names of your cronies will get no where near the winning post.

Well what has got the North street Mafia rattled??

You would think that following last weekend which should have seen the culmination of their corrupt plot they would be basking in the glow.

But no, they seem to be on the attack, more so now than before, named and personal attacks on persons who cannot defend themselves.

That dont sound to me like a gang that has won, it sounds more like a gang that has run into big trouble.

Well I hope all the good true and loyal party members and residents have read todays Dagenham Post or will go out and buy it.

Now we must demand that the NEC of the Labour Party set aside ALL of this mockery of justice that is called a selection process. And run it fair and square without any interference from North street and London Region.

And mentioning London Region we should be demanding that the General Secretary of the Labour Party sacks Ken Clark the Regional Director for London and Rob Chapman the so called East London Organiser.

Why should we be demanding that they are sacked? because they got into bed with the corrupt bunch at North Street instead of listening to the real party members.

So please join the call

Jackie

Well said. I have read the Dagenham Post this morning and would only hope that the National newspapers will pick this up and expose the whole lot of them.

Lets just hope that the elections next year will prove that certain people from Thames Ward have ruined the very party they are supposed to be dedicated to.

READ – ON , This is unbelievable, but can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 600 employees and has the following employee statistics.

29 have been accused of spouse abuse

7 have been arrested for fraud

9 have been accused of writing bad cheque’s

17 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses

3 have done time for assault

71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit

14 have been arrested on drug-related charges

8 have been arrested for shoplifting

21 are currently defendants in lawsuits

84 have been arrested for drink driving in the last year

And collectively, this year alone, they have cost the British tax payer £92,993,748 in expenses!!!

Which organization is this ?

It’s the 635 members of the House of Commons, the same group that cranks out hundreds of new laws each year designed to keep the rest of us inline.

What a bunch of Ass-holes we have running our country – it says it all. And just to top all that they probably have the best ‘corporate’ pension scheme in the country!!

I received this via a chain letter yesterday and thought everyone should have read !!!!!

We is so pleased that story is on front page of post. now it is out in the light and not hidden away in darkness where bad things can happen.

we are long time members of party we are pleased with our councillors we do not want to changed them. but we was over run with all new members, peoples we did not kknow wearing bourkha or niqab and speakng with different acents from midlands birmingham why these peoples voting in our borough this is wrong.

we feels shame and would suport call for peoples to clean this up.

I agree with Ex LBBD Cllr. It quite apparant that gerry mandering is alive and well in Barking (just remember what happened to Dame Shirley Porter) ballot rigging, I hear there is written evidence of this, and the fact that London Region has colluded with a very small group of members who have taken control of Barking party, and are holding it to ransom is quite plain for all to see.

The local people are clamouring for this corruption to end.

Only the NEC of the party can do this and I would ask that they step in and do it now.

Can I please join the call, or has it now become a shout? that the NEC of the Labour party step in, void the whole selection process in Barking & Dagenham that has been so totally corrupted, and start afresh.

Would they also look into this issue of so called party members, isnt it strange no odd that Barking constituency party is the only party in the whole of the country that is bucking the trend and signing up new members. Come on now, what with all there has been in the papers about expenses etc, the war in Iraq and Afganistan we in Barking are getting more new members than anywhere else in the country, and a great percentage of those we have found are muslems, could it be that they are setting aside their anger over these major issues so that their relatives have a chance to be elected to the council, even if as it has been alleged they live in Birmingham?

So I join the call for the NEC to come in, and also because London Region and the officers of Barking Clp appear to be in collusion, lets have the NEC run the whole process again.

Can I please firstly correct a statement obviously issued by D Twomey to the Post yesterday where he states that Bert Collins will be standing in Parsloes ward, many of us are of course aware that Bert is not standing and has made quite clear that the reason he is not is because of the appalling way his friends and colleagues have been treated.

Can I now introduce some facts, the number of votes cast for all of the members who have been DUMPED

Jeanne Alexander 1376
Alok Agrawal 1268
Fred Barns 1264
Val Rush 1278
Emmanuel Obasohan 1058
Don Hemmett 1071
Jim McDermott 965
Pat Northover 944
Warren Northover 1204
Bert Collins 1050
Bob Little 1126
Joan Rawlinson 1157
Gerry Vincent 1233
Pat Twomey 1406
John Denyer 1304

You do not get these kind of high figures and believe me they are some of the highest during the 2006 elections when they were fighting the BNP just on being a labour councillor, this is being trusted by your community a lot of this is personal vote, which the North street Mafia will never have.

Lets go through their list and see just who was involved and did any work at all during those same 2006 elections…in Barking… well I can only find one name in that list and that is Hardial Singh Rai.

The likes of Cameron Geddes who did not get selected in 2006 but has decided he will stand this time only if he is on a promise of a safe seat and a good job if elected. Funnily enough one of the new candidates for gascoigne went on holiday to pakistan during those elections and rumour has it that he was prevented from returning for about 6 months.

The others well you must make your own judgement on them Im pretty sure there are enough people around who can add what they may know.

But is this what you really want a bunch of opportunists.

Not me, come on the NEC come into to Barking and clean it up please.

Thanks Ex LBBD Cllr for collaborating the statement made re Bert Collins, while I accept that C Geddes may well have decided not to stand in 2006, I seem to recall that was in a fit of pique because he lost his place as Dep Leader, and could see the writing on the wall as far as him ever being on the Executive again.

Word on the grapevine now is that he is on a promise not only of a safe seat, but for the highest position within the labour group.

Yes we keep coming back to this list that North street would have us believe does not exist????? well perhaps they should gag some of their cronies, because they are telling any one who will listen just who is going to get what position within the labour group…..IF and it is really a big IF now they were to secure any seats.

All I can say is if that dark day does fall in the borough, my strongest advice to friends, family and colleagues would be to sell up and move.

[...] Reports suggest that MP Margaret Hodge is involved in a dirty tricks campaign to influence selections. The deselected councillors are said to be “people who didn’t like Margaret,” with the Labour MP described by her own side as ” a control freak”. [...]

Just found this piece below in an old press article from 2007. I thought it was very relevant to what is happening now.

The anger against Hodge has led to a fierce battle within Barking Labour Party, Socialist Worker has learned. Hodge vowed to “clean up” the local party by purging it of traditional activists and replacing them with her cronies.

This resulted in an attempt to deselect Hodge from the seat by “Old Labour” forces in Barking. But she saw off that deselection bid last week. Labour Party sources say the timing of her latest comments reflect an attempt to consolidate her power base locally.

Close friend@3.22pm if that is all you have to add to the discussion I really would not bother coming back.

i do not trust some of the new councilors that will stand in this borough 2010 some of then have already been dishonest come tell the truth you sh–s be honest ?????

ex-lbbd councillor, you may be interested in this, raises some very interesting points

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyN1RwWfBK4

I have been away for a couple of weeks and have just spent some considerable time catching up. I can’t be doing with the slanging matches that seem to be going on. It makes both sides look extremely bad. Mind you some of it needs saying but we need to be constructive don’t fall into their trap.

Like the Ex LBBD Cllr. I would like to see the CLP in Barking suspended and a complete and transparent investigation carried out by another region.

Can I also ask the question – if prospective Councillors should not be present at the selection meetings, why were D Twomey and D Rodwell playing such an active part in the process? Surely that in itself is enough to show that the process was flawed.

It could well be said by the MH Group that the ‘otherside’ should have been better organised and they may well be right! That being said when an election count is close you can usually call for a re-count. Lets do just that. Start the process afresh and lets be quick about it.

Let someone who has not been party to all the mud slinging come in and look at the whole fiasco objectively. After all is that not the basis of our roots in the Labour Party. Listen to those who may well be in the minority and seek whats fair for all.

After that I would say ‘Unity is Strength’ and to all those who have just had a moan about what they have lost but have not previously put themselves out and left it to the few to hopefully achieve what they see as right – Join the Party. You can’t hope to change it from the outside.

To all those who say they have cut up their membership cards I say the same. Its a shame that you have done this. You may well have given the MH group exactly what they want. No opposition. I know like me you are fed up and tired but please reconsider phone membership and say you have lost your card and request a new card and keep fighting.

Jane, your words are good and true, but a lot of us are feeling very frustrated at the moment. Ex LBBD Cllr we know too well time is running out, but, everyone with any clout seems to have taken the batteries out of their hearing aids.

They are just not listening. Rumour has it that where the vacant seats are the North street mafia are quite prepared just to put up paper candidates. NEVER before has this been done by labour in Barking, but in their arrogance they no longer care.

They will now kick into the long grass any more selections and waste time, this is what happens when a handful of corrupt individuals grab control, and believe me the corruption is there, the evidence is mounting up and will be used.

One suggestion that has been made is that the link to this site is emailed to each member of the NEC, how do we find out their names and email addresses.

Also the unions who have funded Mr Chapmans post, and who have in the past funded good and true councillors.

We will continue to fight but it now needs to be targetted, and supported by all on here, and communications to be left on here, if thats ok with Tribune, who I think we need to say thank you to for bringing this out into the open.

The fight for our party is on.

All these selected candidates have to be elected before they are Councillors.

One of these is a liar and a thief.

Del only problem with it is you cannot post comment direct you have to be registered with a blog site so its difficult.I have been trying with wordpress and typepad for over 30 minutes now

As a non labour antifascist who recognises that it it only Labour who can stop the BNP in 2010 this is a depressing read. Barnbrook and pals must be cracking open the champagne after reading this thread

Focus on this. In the 2008 GLA list elections, the BNP came top on 7 of the 17 Barking wards and close in another 2. They are on a roll after their Euro wins, and I understand will fight enough candidates to win in 2010- perhaps ignoring the few clearly unwinnable wards for them, but with a national campaign to fight model campaigns in their winnabel wards

For gods sake, focus on what unites and not divides you, or the BNP will win in 2010

A lot of vitriol against M Hodge here which may or may bot be true.

But at least she sems to be clean on the expenses front. Labour’s real Achilles Heel and the BNP’s top asset is Notting Hill resident Jon Cruddas who is one of the worst second home cheats.

He should join Harry Cohen in retirement.

Felt I wanted to say to everyone that even throughout all this back biting and the horrible way Margaret Hodge, George Shaw and croanies have dealt with this councillor selection process our BEST councillor Fred Barns has continued to serve us well.

Only today I have had cause to ring him at home for some advise and even though it is Saturday afternoon he was really happy to help me and my family.

So rememeber Fred is still our councillor until the next election even though the few in North Street (Hodges base) have put pay to him being able to be the labour candidate next time.

By doing that I for one will not vote Labour in the next elections as I always vote for the best candidate for my ward and as I have found that is Fred Barns.

So to coin a phrase which I have changed to keep decent Labour is up “BARKING CREEK” without a paddle.!

oh here we go ,more rumours,lies,allegationsetc.etc,but
still no proof from a handful of people with hatred in their hearts,most do not even know the new
candidates or even spoken to them, so how can yoiu judge what you dont know,your accusations are based on rumours and accusations from induviduals ,who are just as bad as a lynch mob,some of thosedeselected cllrs have nothing to be proud of,some have stabbed their own colleagues in the back, instead of working together.they havbe done nothing to fight thne bnp, most of thefighting as come from ground level where cllrs abandon the commmunity through their own arrogance and complacency. its a crying shame that their little click and powerbasehas now been broken up
they have omly got therselves to blame for the split,m but I dont mean every cllr, some were good maybe it is time for a CHANGE,BUT as
for any who really are not interested
then you are too blinkered and want to listen to rumours and lies and allegations, then just goes to show how sad you really are, no proof, no credibility, the trolls will win , because all because up to now you have not got the back up of your convictions, we should be working together, but mindless morons dont want that,and rather sellthe borough down the drain,please look at what you aredoing,its no good anyone,the party but most of all the mostimportaznt people the community

Well have tried to read the posting left by: support the trolls campaign, I fully agree with the questions being asked by confused at 7.50am.

As for this troll, he/she is either drunk or illiterate, and knowing the bunch of trolls as we do my money is on illiterate.

It is stated we dont know the candidates or even spoken to them???? well that tells a story all of its own doesnt it?

Many of us know quite a few of the so called candidates, and many of us know quite a bit about them which will be published in another place for all to read, but of course we will be holding back some of the info until the election campaign really kicks off, believe me it will kill your trolls stone dead as far as the electorate is concerned.

And as for the candidates we dont know that speaks volumes against the Labour Party, if you look at the length of time served by the councillors you have dumped, plus of course their length of time as a member of the party dont you think that if these new candidates had been doing half the work you claim, or had been active in the party at all we would have known them.

You really cannot have it both ways you know, you really cannot expect us or the voters to support your candidates who have been members for just 12 months and who have their own agenda for getting elected and its certainly got nothing to do with the Labour Party Agenda.

But then again what do you trolls know about the Labour Party? it is just a convienient lable for you if the truth is told.

OH dear “support the trolls campaign” you really are having problems stringing a sentance together arnt you. You may change your names around, but, use the same old lines, “huff and puff” etc. As for us digging for dirt, believe us when we say we have not had to dig too far.

It is all there on the surface we will just ensure that it gets to the widest of audiences.

You really could not be more wrong in claiming most people want change, but then again you probably have trouble reading what the ordinary members of the public have written on here, because your own self inflated ego will not accept that what is written is true.

I have heard that people are losing the impetus to carry on with the fight.

Don’t worry there are plans afoot behind the scenes. This issue will NOT go away.

It may seem like nothing is being done, but believe me it is.

I have been reading this column since it started, and all I can say is that Joan Rawlinson has been our candidate in Thames Ward ever since I came to live here years ago. She has helped me in lots of ways.

Now I understand that we are supposed to vote for someone else, who I have never heard of and wouldn’t know if I passed them on the street. Why would I vote for them?

I have deduced that there is lots of shilly shallying going on behind the scenes.

It worries me greatly that no-one has ever introduced these new candidates to us on Scrattons Farm.

I have heard of Barry Poulton, because his name is on a poster in our shop, but who the hell are Jose Channer and Cameron Geddes. Why should I vote for someone I don’t know. We have never seen Barry Poulton on this estate, but everyone knows Joan.

It seems to me that Scrattons that Scrattons Farm will once again be the little estate at the end of the Borough that some people have never heard of.

Having read over 200 hits on this blog I am blown away by the way the good hard working people of this borough are sticking up for justice and what they see is right.
They have seen with their own eyes the corruption, slease and vendettas coming from the office of Lady Margaret Hodge MP at her 102 North street constituency office and the local constituency Labour party.
I have also read with concern on several blogs that confidential information has leaked out from the CLP concerning selection interviews and how people have bean selected via the back door. Several of the blogs indicate that some of the newly selected candidates credentials are being called in question. This worries me deeply. Are police checks carried out on prospective councillors, and if not why not?
I have heard no complaints on the blogs concerning our trusted councillors who were elected in 2006. I have however heard plenty stating how they do not want to lose their existing councillors and if they do they will not be voting for Labour in the 2010 elections.
Just a thought where does our new council leader Cllr. Liam Smith or the newly elected Mayor Cllr. Charles Fairbrass stand regarding the concerns of the local people of the borough? Their silence is deafening. I urge them to please join us to bring back to the borough the old Labour values of fairness for all.
Don’t lets lose it for ever, let us stand back to back and continue to fight for justice.

I am somewhat appalled at the shinangons and goings in your CLP.

Just take one look at what happened to the seats on Harold Hill at the last local election after the de-selection of several local and popular candidates. All bar one was lost to the tories and the BNP.

Whatever has happened during your selections you must re-group and re focus, unity must be the key word.

The pains of the tribulations in Havering still continue to this day.

Your task of keeping the BNP at bay was hard enough as it was and now you are staring disaster in the face due to the ongoing row over selections – the once ruling Labour Group on Havering Council were wiped out only leaving just two members remaining.

In Havering we are now faced with the impossible task of trying to rebuild our once proud party.

Learn from our history – due to our selection debacle the only winners were the tories and the BNP – is this what you want to happen in Barking?

You have no idea how lucky you are with such a large and expanding membership!

I urge you to stop playing this dispute out through the press, whatever has happened, those who continue to do this will be harming not only the local party but Barking and Dagenham’s future. The country will be ashamed of both the voters and the local politicians who would have let in the first ever BNP lead council in the country.

Please take this advice from devestated and desperate in Havering.

A friend suggested that Ilook at this site. .
We live in one of the wards that’s going over to Barking at the next election
Isn’t it bad enough that we are going to loose a fantastic MP Jon Cruddas and possibly end up with the self seeking M Hodge who me and my family will not vote for
Isn’t it bad enough that our one and only Labour councillor has great difficulty in stringing his sentences together, we now find out that the chair of our tra wants to be a councillor well he’s just not up to it

In response to Sam (thames ward) I am sure Del will be more than pleased to try and bring the piece out of archieve for you.

Can I say though, that the postings on that site are a group effort, I am sure those of you who have read them will recognise the differing styles.

But as long as friends and interested residents are reading them we will carry on.

this better day by day

Twomeys briefing was a triumph of Orwellian news speak

Well, the comments are still coming in thick and fast. The plot thickens it seems! But, it’s good to see that Cllr. Barns still has the backing and support from Thames Ward.

Del’s blog is very informative. The worms are crawling out of the woodwork. Give ‘em enough rope, as they say.

Having just read this mornings dagenham post all I can say is that John Davis has confirmed what everyone has said about him.Firstly John you Chair Barking CLP not group and only cos they need a patsy, secondly on the day you went for “interview” all sitting councillors were seen by a panel of 2 NOT 4/5 as you claim. I think that’s proof positive you didn’t get anywhere near the interview room.

[...] The above insipid article by the Labour biased Barking and Dagenham Post seeks to down play the chaos in the local Labour party. The recent revolt and chaos stems from the interference of Margaret Hodge MP for Barking and her sock puppets Domonic Twomey and darren Rodwell who seems to have more power than the local Council Leader Liam Smith. Twomey who is not even a local councillor but the son of one is well known for his roughshod bullying style. Twomey, Hodge and the fascist searchlight organisation have joined forces to get rid of any councillors they regard as ‘trouble’. This includes some councillors who have been outspoken of the ‘loony left direction’ the party is taking. Others are objectors to the ‘Africans for Essex’ programme and the swamping of Barking and Dagenham with Africans. Disgruntled councillors have made their feelings clear in the comments section of this tribune article [...]

There are times that change is essential and there is definately a need to face the challenges that are being thrust on the party by the BNP. if this means a change in the elected council then that is the way it should be.

HERE’S TO DEMOCRACY

As for a view from the north, which northern part of Barking do you come from mate.

Or is it just north of the Watford Gap near Birmingham, where we understand a large number of Barking CLP members live.

Heres to democracy you say, there has been nothing democratic about this whole process as you would know if you had bothered to read the comments and the original article.

But then you are so blinkered, being from North Street.

Just to let all interested parties know it is very strongly rumoured that something medium to big could kick off at about 12 noon today.

More later with photos.

There was a mass demonstration held outside of 102 North Street at 12 noon today, the roads were blocked with council refuse trucks, road sweepers, council workers from the GMB union and residents.

All were protesting against the deselection of 2 very popular and hard working councillors Fred Barns and Val Rush.

The press were well represented as well.

Protesters stated that they would not stand by and let this happen, this is just the begining of the protests that will be happening over time, until they said the labour party holds its hands up and admits its mistake.

The majority of those protesting live in the borough, and are so angry at M Hodges involvement in all of this that they have stated that in the next general election they would rather vote BNP than vote for Hodge.

Interesting times we live in.

Well done TRIBUNE for keeping this going.
You are doing a great service to the people in the Barking Constituency Labour Party area. This includes Alibon, Valence and Parsloes Wards. They have Dagenham addresses but still come under Barking for all voting purposes.Please, Ward residents, remember this when you put your votes in at the local and national elections.
Remember what they have done to some very good people – such as: Fred Barns, Val Rush, Jeanne Alexander, John Denyer, Alok Agrawal, and many more.

I would hardly call about 3 residents and half a dozen refuse vehicles and crews, one photographer and one reporter, a mass demo,50 to 70 you claim,Ithink you need to get your abacus out and learn your sums,I can also recommend a good opticion,as yor eyesights seems to be failing,thats of course if you were there or relying as usual on hearsay,you will find that the phots will prove that I am right

yes i would like to see the photos of yesterdays mass meeting please

To we will rock you, you could not rock anyone.Were you there, I DONT THINK SO,you would like people to believe you scored a resounding victory, but no one was listening, the demo was pathetic and was over before it even started,your rants and raves are becoming very tiresome and boring its a shame that you have not got as much sympathy and backing as you like to people to believe,no matter what you claim

BUT, I DO KNOW WHO YOU ARE,you believe what you want to,one thing for sure is that this is all going to far,and to personal,with innocent people getting caught up in it,and that is a disgrace on your part ,blaming everyone else and taking no responsibility yourselves,this has gone from a campaign for justice to all out personal attacks on everyone who does not agree with you,the blog site is an absolute disgrace,and the person dong it should be ashamed .it is the lowest of low,you may say it is justified,well if the deselected cllrs are in favour of and are sinking to that type of guttertrash,then everyone is better of without them,I BELIEVE IN FAIRNESS AND JUSTICE ,BUT THIS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT.

Brilliant response Jackie, you certainly know how to rock a troll on his heels.

But just one little interesting phrase in his post that was missed. He states that “innocent people are getting caught up in it”.

Are the trolls finally admitting that they are guilty? and that they are now going to try and use “innocent people” as a shield?

hiding behind words again jackie,you can not accept that you have lost the plot sometime ago, its not about justice anymore, just hatred,and shows how sad and disgraceful you lot have become no one should behave like this from any side,it does not matter who wins anymore ,the real people who suffer is the community,and it wrong to ask them to take sides in this viscious so called war,which you are making worse,Ithought you cared about the community,well you have a very poor way of showing it,as for arrogance ,take alook in the mirror,
you do not scare me,Iactually pity you,keep taking the pills you might feel better soon,of course you wont like what I have said,I will listen when you come up with something constructive for a change, as at the moment you seem to be revelling in destruction and hatred.

Friends told me about this site some little while ago and I have only now got around to reading it all.

I can now better understand why my friends are so angry, just who or what are these trolls, who gave the North street mafia the right to come in and impose on the residents people/strangers who the mafia think will be fit councillors.

We up yours matey, having now had a closer look at the 3 you are proposing to put up in my ward, unless the sitting councillors stand as independents we will be voting for the BNP. We will not be dictated to by outsiders.

As for the comments left by side line while on a first read they appear to be balanced on digging a little deeper it seems to push all the usual buttons talking about splitting the vote preying on peoples loyalty to a party they have been members of for a long time
There will be no splitting of vote for those that the mafia in their corrupt ways have got rid of it will be an over whelming victory for them as trusted independent councillors

Looks to me as though even the trolls have crawled under their bridge, have they got some idea just what is coming next?

Do they realise just what kind of a hole they have dug themeselves into?

Not only are they now facing accusations of ballot rigging, gerrymandering, bullying, intimidation there are now serious questions being asked about the financial managment of Barking party. Something of course that 102 North Street should have no control over at all, but when did law ever stop this lot.

This will all end in tears.

Just joined, so hi to everyone. All I read here is moaning about Hodge and others, and isn’t it a shame that some fine councillors have been deselected, but what is anyone going to do about getting lab back in in 2010, or help to achieve that result?

Moaning doesn’t win elections, action does. So does being focused on the end result. Or has everyone given up already?

on July 22nd Jackie said ‘Looks like the North Street mafia have fallen off the face of the earth. All has gone deadly quite, does it mean that because the MP gets 12 weeks paid holiday that that lot of scheming s…..s do as well?’

just heard that this might be commencted to the fight to replace Derek Wyatt as Labour MP for Sittingbournme & sheepy in Kent. this vacancy was announced just 4 weeks ago by the sitting MP. and who do we find in the middle of that battle? Step forward Mike haywood Deputy Leader of the local council there
http://www.swale.gov.uk/dso/displaymore.asp?uid=126

Is it just coincidence that everything goes deadthly quiet in North Street when theres a chance for someone to become an Mp in Kent if enough schemeing can be done there as well?

as usual you are talking crap
you have not got the support you
think you have,you sad moronic people who have no guts to face the people you accuse,you certaintly need urgent medical help

HiFolks, i’m new to this site, so allow me to introduce myself. i was born in Dagenham 60 odd years ago, have been bred and lived in the borough all my life. became a labour supporter at the age of 21 when all sensible people were allowed to vote. my family have been labour activists for 5 generations. i worked with and alongside and was mentored by the likes of Len Henstock and Frank Cousins. two of the true labour party members. therefore i feel that i am suitably qualified to determine what is a ‘true’ member. i would say that 10 to 15% could possibly qualify, but what about the rest? i can, without fear of contradiction, classify these into 3 groups.1 the political hasbeens, those who served their time, did not leave an impression on the party and were asked to step aside. 2 the political wannabe’s these people have aspirations beyond their inteligence, they have been nowhere and are going nowhere. finally we have the morons these have neither aspirations or inteligence they just think that coming on a site like this and insulting people is ‘big’ the pathetic souls. so to the 10 to 15% if you want this site to work then we need party workers not ‘night workers’ so put out the rubbish and be constructive. after all you are the true labour party members aren’t you!

See the North Street mafia have moved back over here then, trying for a take over are we?

As for arbitrator, the only thing genuine about you chum is the trator in the name you choose to use.

So dont go on trying to give the impression that you have been appointed to bring both sides together, because we all know the truth, you were never as you claimed invited anywhere.

As for “whistleblower” I bet thats all you are good for. It has already been proved to the satisfaction of the persons who run the BTLPM blog by the police that it was not me who posted the pornography on site.

What!!! you didnt think the police would be interested, come on mate, especially as you and your chums were it seems stupid enough to use pictures of children, of course the police are interested.

So as well as looking out for yourself perhaps you need to warn your little poisonious bunch to look out for the knock on the door.

And if you are so confident that you know my identity, bring it on mate.

there you go Ive replied.

night shift worker

And just when things were starting to get boring they bring back Matt Huggins from the dead.

What a useless piece of work he was, a very troubled soul.

Heaven forbid that the North Street mafia are even considering getting that madman to stand again.

Still nothing they did would surprise me.

jackie

Please don’t go putting ideas in their heads.Its really odd though how Goresbrook seems to attract problems when it comes to councillors, Terry Power paediophille, Matt Huggins disturbed and mental and now Grahame Letchford Junkie.

I would like to let everyone know that MR GEORGE SHAW has gone under-ground “just like a womble” He has resigned from every group he was a member or chair of in Thames View but has been seen watching from outside the Thames View Infant school who was attending the last Safer Neighbourhood Police Meeting in August ( HOW BLOODY SAD IS THAT !!! ) Get a life MR SHAW go home and watch corrie like other OAP’S ……………. I can now say it’s a pleasure to attend our meetings knowing that MR SHAW won’t be there trying to change the rules to suit himself and talk a load of old TOSH too !! …………. JUST NEED TO KICK HIM OFF BARKING LABOUR PARTY AS CHAIR NOW !!!!! PS GEORGE IF YOU READ THIS YOU FORGOT TO TAKE YOUR PUPPET CLLR BARRY POULTON WITH YOU.

You really should click on over to the “blog” and read Part 6 of the George Shaw story.

It gets better the more you read.

OH how the mighty have fallen

we will rock you

Seems to me Rodwell now believes himself to be the Leader of Barking party, well it certainly came across like that the other night when he put forward his DEMANDS and telling members YOU WILL DO
We all know what happens to dictators

and why isnt this man graham letchford up to it seems to me he has the seniors, and the youth of this borough in mind of whatever he does lets face it none of the others have taken complaints about drug dealers of which there are many in the becontree ward seriousley but he does give him the benefit he deserves at least let him have a go night shift worker befor you put the man down

Medusa, I really do think you need to learn how to spell, and how to write. As for your comments about Letchford, of course he would be really interested in knowing where all the drug dealers are in his area!!!!!!

As for the very stupid comment by Mr Barking Labour, do you honestly think someone is going to put their christian name on this blog, some of us do have other names to choose from. But I must say your arrogance in using the title Mr Barking Labour places you fair and square within the North Street mafia.

Never wanted to stand myself. But for you my closet is an open door the same as it is for everyone else. I have nothing to hide.

Unlike Mr Letchford who is well known for his habit in the area. No grudge just truth.

I am not about to get into an argument with you medusa, but you asked about proof, yes and yes again.

Perhaps you should do your own investigating and find out for yourself.

we will rock you,if you have proof as you say,and you are callng graham letchford a jumkie as previously stated,then lets get the police involved,and if it is proven you are wrong,he could have you nicked for slander and defamation of character

then stop slandering ,if one is caught with thier hands in the till and has paid for that crime then it is over you have paid your dues ,why keep on about it or have you nothing better to do as for the law i know it very well i think you should be reading what you have written because that is what you are doing slandering

Well, well, attacks from the same person under different names, obviously been watching too much telly over the holidays.

Just to set the record straight, medusa has now confirmed that in his/her opinion Letchford has been caught and paid for his crime so we the community should let it go.

Sorry, not when it comes to drugs, and not when it is well known in the area that it is still continuing.

As for the gorgon, (please read your greek mythology) we stated we have proof. Yes the police do know him through the snt, but they know him far better for other reasons.

respected…….representative……please dont make us laugh.

Well Done Graham – its about time someone stood up to these bullies. They have have attempted to slander all of the new candidates in their bid to bring down the barking labour party as they were unsuccessful in their attempts to be selected once more. May God be with you and the rest of the party in your attempt to keep the BNP out.

i have never said that mr. letchford has commited a crime ,all i have pointed out is ,that even if it were true not one person who has been calling graham letchford a junkie has any proof and even if it were true which i know for a fact it isn’t everybody deserves a second chance and we shouldn’t judge by pas deeds i am all for a radical change in the labour party as i am with the conservatives and all the other parties let us have people who actually live a life represent us not those who are gossip mongers and are only in it for themselves and night shift worker you got your area wrong

firstly i have not deselected anybody secondly i have achieved what i set ou to do and that is rattle a few cages and thirdly i have had fun doing it as for contradiction read what you have been saying i know there have been a few good councillers and there have been many who were not so good and there still are both what i have said is give the chance and benefit to anybody who will try and make this labour party better and stop the ridicule if they are not big enough to stand themselves

Dont know why you are even bothering entering into a conversation with medusa/the gorgon Alan.

Its quite obvious to all that they, she, he cannot hold their own in a reasoned debate as has been pointed out in earlier comments.

One minute they and Letchford himself no less are boldly stating that he has had nothing to do with drugs and the police etc, and in the next breath they are hedging their bets claiming, that if he has paid for his crime he should be allowed a second chance.

Well not with my council tax money, or my childrens education he dont.

When is someone going to do something about Barking Labour Party’s leadership?

LBBD is sleepwalking towards BNP control next year because of these people who are working against the local community and their well-regarded representatives.

Well, Well, Well, It seems that ‘night shift worker’ and ‘we will rock you’ are getting a little hot under the collar with regard to the slanderous statements they have been making. could this be that their identities have been divulged and made known to the authorities? or is it because that their comments have now been seen to be doing more damage to the cause of this site than good? one thing i do know is that it would be very prudent for the editors of this site to carefully vet the comments being made for fear of being implicated themselves. Oh,’ we will rock you’, just for your benefit i have run this comment though spell check seeing as this is your only substancial comment to date.

Seems to me whistleblower is as always full of empty threats and hot air. So you reckon you know my identity then do you? Then I will await the solicitors letter. But while waiting I would draw your attention to the recent case of Brian Coleman where the ruling was made in favour of the blogger this is just politics my friend and Letchford and cronies better get used to it

I hear that Eastbury Ward have finally got the candidates they wanted. Well done to them, it goes to show that the mafia can be defeated. If only other wards would now start to fight back, I’m talking about the real members of the ward who are loyal and true. You can take back your ward and the party if you stick together.
Well done Eastbury

You are obviously not reading the same blogs I am

Dear Boss,

I keep on hearing the police have caught me but they wont fix me just yet. I have laughed when they look so clever and talk about being on the right track. That joke about the website gave me real fits. I am down on barkings true labour party members and I shant quit trolling them till I do get buckled. Grand work the last job was. I gave night shift worker no time to squeal. How can they catch me now. I love my work and want to start again. You will soon hear of me with my funny little games.

Signed

Catch me when you can Mr Lusk

PS They say I’m a doctor now. ha ha

We need to remember why the original reason’s this blog all started as MS HODGE & the NORTH STREET TROLLS STARTED A Smear Campaign against our hard working long standing councillors Cllr Barns & Cllr Rawlinson TO REMOVE THEM FROM Thames Ward , Ms Hodge is sending out letter’s to residents of Thames ward stating she is address local issues that have been raised weeks ago and addressed by cllr Barns already !!!! Trying to make it look like she is working for our ward ( what a joke ) !!

Ms Hodge also states and i quote ” if you have any local issues which you would like to discuss with my Thames Action Team please contact councillor Barry Poulton on 0208 277 2116 or barry.poulton@lbbd.gov.uk , Josephine Channer on 0790 494 5353 or Cameron Geddes on 0208 924 3592. Thames Action Team can also be reached on thameslabour@hotmail.co.uk I hope you feel all of the issues raised with me have been addressed. Please do not hesitate to get in touch with me on 0208 594 1333 if i can be of help with anything else”

I think we the residents should give them all a call to ask why the THAMES WARD LABOUR PARTY HAVE BEEN ACTING IN SUCH A UNDERHAND AND CORRUPT WAY IN PAST MONTHS AS IS CLEAR AS THE NOISE ON YOUR FACE THAT, Cllr Fred Barns & Cllr Joan Rawlinson have been hounded out and off the selection panel of the coming 2010 elections bearing in mind that is the residents right of vote (not the labour party) nor is it with the remit of the labour party to ask/expect/tell the public to contact non-elected members when we still have too dedicated hardworking members working for us till next may 2010 !!!!!!!

NO FRED! NO JOAN! …………… NO VOTE FOR LABOUR !!!! THIS WILL BE THE DEMISE OF LABOUR SEATS IN THAMES WARD!

THE RESIDENTS OF THAMES WARD WILL NOT FORGET OR FORGIVE ………………………. GOOD BYE LABOUR !

It seems that the North Street mafia are trying to deflect the accusations of corruption, lying and cheating by trying to say that the group that run the blog are from the BNP and are racist.

OH dear just how wrong could they be, and as for Mr Graham Letchford who has openly admitted on the blog that he works with Cllr Barnbrook of the BNP because in Mr Letchfords view he is the only one who does any work.

LOL this is coming from the mouth of a labour party member who wants to stand and represent the Labour Party on the Council, well shame on you Mr Letchford and shame on the Labour Party for not striking him of of the panel and kicking him out of the party.

The true Barking Party members have woken up to what the North Street mafia are doing, and so has an awful lot of Barking residents.

You will not be able to twist and spin yourselves out of this, so do stop your stupid attempts to brand the blog as BNP, there are too many people involved with far more years service to the Labour party than you in the North Street mafia will ever have.

Oh and another thing, the Boss might want to read Cheap Jerk Trip’s comment a bit more closely. The are clearly a bunch of racists for publishing that.

Saucy Jack strikes again. Another grand job. I am down on barkings true labour party members and I shant quit trolling them till I do get buckled.

Signed

Catch me when you can Mr Lusk

PS They say I’m a doctor now. ha ha

Fear not True Labour. Those dunces didn’t invent me. Talk to me if you like. saucyjack@live.co.uk I’ll even show you my leather apron if you like. ha ha

All will be revealed tonight. That is of course, unless the dear old Boss talks to me. saucyjack@live.co.uk

I AM DOWN ON BARKINGS TRUE LABOUR PARTY MEMBERS AND I SHANT QUIT TROLLING THEM TILL I DO GET BUCKLED.

Signed

Catch me when you can Mr Lusk

PS They say I’m a doctor now. ha ha

As if those dunces invented me. And how are you dear old night shift worker? Still posting those lovely websites?

All will be revealed tonight, unless of course the Boss talks to me.

I am down on barkings true labour party members and I shant quit trolling them till I do get buckled.

Signed

Saucy Jack

Don’t mind me giving the trade name

True Labour is right!

Just how low will North Street and their friends go? Not only did they de-select our hard working and trusted councillor, now they are setting out to smear her name with their lies.

If Saucy Jack, whoever they are goes digging into peoples backgrounds for names he she or they think will fit the bill then they better come up with some more substantial proof that something that was posted over 7 years ago.

Do you honestly think that anyone who was going to run a blog, and yes I have read it and contributed to it as well, would be bloody daft enough to put anything on there that would link them to it.

I know Councillor Val Rush and she is anything but daft and stuipid.

I suggest that North Street put Saucy Jack or is it Jill to work and let them get to the bottom of what is hinted at on the blog about the criminal elements in their choice of candidates.

And stop slandering someone who will not and cannot speak for herself.

Dear All,

King Saucy here. Let’s have a little experiment shall we? Try sending an email to keirhardierulesok@gmail.com

Wait a few minutes and what happens?

DELIVERY FAILURE!

That means the dear old Boss has closed the account – and so soon after my grand work last night? GOTCHA Val.

The Boss doesn’t seem to understand, so I’ll say it again. I AM DOWN ON BARKINGS TRUE LABOUR PARTY MEMBERS AND I SHANT QUIT TROLLING THEM TILL I DO GET BUCKLED.

I keep on hearing the police have caught me but they wont fix me just yet. I have laughed when they look so clever and talk about being on the right track. How can they catch me now. I love my work and want to start again. You will soon hear of me with my funny little games.

Signed

Saucy Jack

Don’t mind me giving the trade name

Strange isnt it that just a few days after Councillor Val Rush gives the bnp a real bloody nose for sucessfully bringing a case of lying against their most popular member Barnbrook from the gla and the council, and gets him suspended for lying I hear a first in London.

All of a sudden a a real nasty attack starts on here against her. and by who the same profile name that appeared on the blog and behind which was a load of filthy porn

ive sent emails to the blog along a with a lot of other members and i certainly did not use that email address. so just what is going on, i reckon the bnp and their nazis have decided this is the way to attack councillor rush.

and none of the rubbish that anyone who hides behind porn says will convince me different.

Also just found out something rather interesting. Turns out there is some secretly recorded footage of a meeting between Mike Haywood and Val Rush: http://tinyurl.com/ygohft2

Get well soon Councillor Rush Barking True Labours Members Blog is falling apart without you.

it seems now that a cetain person who is now out of commission,the blog site dies a painful and well deserved death along with its imaginary crew.
what goes around comes around in the end,hows the grapes

I was trailing through some back postings on the london bnp website last night and came across an interesting piece relating to b & d it was supposed to have been copied from the Labour list site and was extolling the virtues of Darren Rodwell, reading thru the piece it seems that Darren Rodwell is the saviour of Barking Labour party, only by him and his leadership and guidance has the party been as successful as it has so far. And who ever it was who wrote this is convinced that only Darren Rodwell can lead Barking clp to victory.

It also reads, and i could be wrong on this as though the bnp in that area are very supportive of Darren Rodwell.

Like i said i could have misread this so have a look for yourselves on London Patriot.

Personally ive always thought of political parties as a team effort and not just one individual, and i think that there could perhaps be some problems if all of a sudden we start hearing that Darren Rodwell is walking on water.

To bnp watcher,

Please read my commentry you will find a number of spelling errors, list them and we can consider this lesson one.

@ BNP watcher

Incoherent? I think you’ll find the english is fine.

I think the style was perfect for you. You criticise others from the shadows, without using your real name to maximise the confusion and disruption to the Labour Party.

I will question anyone who does such a thing in such a cowardly manner.
As for “attack” I used no foul language and made it clear with my opening statements that I welcome all Labour Councillors who work for the public.

I also defended your twisted assertion that I write about some kind of alliance between Labour Members and the BNP.

I suggest you read your own comments again and think about how they affect those you are talking about.

I travelled thousands of miles to aid and assist the Labour party and proactively seek to see to the defeat of the BNP and I will do all I can to see this occur.

You see BNP watcher unlike you, I prefer to do a little more than “watch”. and slag off other members of the Party whilst hiding your true identity in a most cowardly and weak manner.

I say to you once more, taking on the BNP is a great opportunity for any Labour member/candidate you can become part of something which will gain the full attention of the Country and share in the benefits, or you can sit back and selfishly slag off others whilst hiding and watch the BNP take Barking and Dagenham, then you may find a real reason to hide your identity.

Apologies for spelling and grammer as I am in work at the mo and am working as I am typing this stuff.

Barking is going to have to unsplit itself, put aside personality and focus on the most important principle of all, the people they represent.

Surely our differences are insignificant when compared to those that lie between us and the BNP?

Glad dagenham is unified.

This all seems to be coming from one side now, with the last few comments giving the impression that there is now no longer any split in Barking labour party and everyone is working together.

Well from what I am hearing that may not be the whole truth, although I no longer attend party meetings I still get information passed on from members who do, and it seems to them that the split is still as wide as it ever was, which is a great shame, as there always used to be room within the party for differing views on things, but, from what I am being told now differing views are no longer allowed.

If, I am told you do not follow the line laid down by the officers within Barking CLP you are out in the cold.

So I will keep paying my subs and helping where I can, but the principals of Old Labour are the ones I follow, which I hear are frowned upon now.

well said ralph,your comments are spot on.there may have beem a split,but it has made us stronger,the difference now is that we work as a TEAM AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER,and believe in what we are doing,the comradeship between us is strong and those who did not wish to be part of the team and resorted to tactics to undermine what we are trying to do,will not succeed,as for Mr Rodwell walking on water,whats wrong with having a paddle down at southend.

Strange this, but descriptions of Barking CLP being all together, team work etc, certainly dont seem to be what is being said by majority of existing party members, who no longer attend CLP meetings, and many who are resigning from the party.

Its all too confusing for me, many members will work in their wards so they are saying, but, only for those who have been rightly selected as candidates for the wards, not for those wards who have had candidates forced upon them.

Seems to me one side says one thing the other says another, but the larger membership are being left out in the cold.

There seems to be some very snappy answers being given to questions that appear to be genuine questions.

I think you are trying to convince yourselves that you have a united party, but when you really look at it what have you got 30 odd people slavishly following dictates.

You must always guard against one individual looking to be bigger that the sum of the party, at this moment the great Leader of Barking clp seems to be Darren Rodwell who it seems is credited with saving Barking from the brink of disaster.

think we can all guess where that kind of PR leads.

Labour Member we all know why this site stopped. We all know who is behind it, and who is trying their hardest to break the party apart. It’s a real shame that she claims to be Anti BNP when she puts all her efforts into helping them. She does not care who gets hurt along the way, and is just as happy to see a BNP Council be elected rather then see the Labour Party succeed with out her. I honestly think that the accident was a case of karma what goes around comes around – we don’t need to mention all the dirty lies that she has been spreading. It would seem that if karma was the case she hasn’t learnt. As for Darren Rodwell I would say that it is long overdue that someone took the party by the reins and made sure it was back I contact with the residents. Well Done Darren and all the candidates that are working hard – remember karma good things happen to good people

I think it is best if we leave rumours well alone.
As I said we must focus on defeating the BNP and on nothing else. The consequences for the lives and safety of thousands of people in this Borough rest on our Unity and Strength.

It would truly make my millenium if we along with the Unions had discussions open and all inclusive and talk about the different Wards and how we can claim them back!

We need an open meeting where we can help each other. Because if any of you are feeling lonely or isolated you count me in for a start.

This the Labour Party. Nobody is on their own.

Questionaires, leaflets voter ID and helping helping people, that’s all it takes.

You knock on the doors and get seen again and again until you become “part of the furniture” and the main location where people go when they need help.

Then the “X” in the box is a given.

So instead of bleating on and personal nonesense, let’s talk strategy, lets talk about winning.

@A really p……..d off member

Thank you for your kind, warm and heatfelt words. Meanwhile Nick Griffin has decided to stand in Barking, he has clearly changed his mind and withdrawn from Thurrock.

That is fine as I am here too Mr Griffin.

Bring it on!

As this Ralph Baldwin fella dont even exist as far as I am concerned will ignore his comments, cos of course he knows what has being going on in Barking, him being in South Korea all that time.

As for me not fighting the BNP dont jump to conclusions, there are more ways to fight them than by being under the direction of North Street, as far as I and believe it or not a lot of other members and ex members feel really p……d off at the way you are treating our party.

We will fight the BNP but not with a lot of bloody backstabbers.

One more thing. You don’t win elections in the Council Chamber.

Most people on the street are aware of what is happening in their local neighbourhoods, aware what is happening Nationally as it is on the TV and in the papers. But generally speaking most people do not clue into minutes and meetings as they have a life.

When I was a Councillor in Norfolk we never had the luxory of a safe seat, we had to canvass damn hard, any Labour Councillors who became locked into the job (some of them were damn good Councillors) but not interested in campaigning on the doorstep soon lost their seats.

It was with bitter experience we realised how hard we would have to work. There is no getting away from it, Barking and Dagenham are no longer safe seats and you have to adjust.

@ A far more foolish than I could have ever imagined ex-member.

I served on the council some time ago, before my stint of five years in the armed forces serving my country yet again.
I shall do even better, Robin.Goreham@breckland.gov.uk
is a very close friend and fellow Councillor and can confirm my role as Branch secretary, Councillor, 27 years of activism and campaigning all over the UK which began as a wee lad in the Miners Strike and in supporting my father, a Manchester City Labour Councillor, and Union man, my role as a delegate in the East Region at Southend some years ago. He can also tell you how I lost a safe seat when I depended on an agent who failed in sorting out my nominations in a seat, as it turned out, said agent had cancer and quite rightly, more important things on his mind, he died the following summer and he was a damn good friend, a Union man and one of the greatest campaigners I have ever had the honour to work with, not to mention an even minded, caring socialist who will always command my complete respect. It happens though.

Life goes on. So don’t talk to me about your pathetic deselection.

You may also speak to TFish@thurrock.gov.uk who can attest to my insistence on transparency and honesty during the PPC selection process. I am not worried about the selection now as Nick Griffin has fled the scene.

There you have it.

I have been open and truthful.

Your turn, who are you?

Let’s see your commitment to transparency and honesty?

It did not take long for the whiners to started up again,blaming everyone else,and not taking any responsability thereselves.Some of them have been abusing and lying to the communities for a long time,now they think they are hard done by,well tough,your gravy train is over,get used to it,since when have you lot treated anyone fairly or with respect.At least people like ralph speaks the truth,and yes he does exist,and if you were doing your job properly,since some of you are still taking the wage, you would know this.so do the job your still paid for and elected to do,instead of attacking those that are trying there best

Just in case anybody is linking me with previous anonymous comments, let me make it clear that I only make comment using my name. I don’t hide behind anonimity. I’m not criticising anonimity, just stating that I will always stand up and be counted.

Seems to me that again anyone who comments on here who says anything that is not totally in line with what is being dictated from North Street ends up with a savage attack.

You all appear to be fixated on the idea that only councillors who have been deselected are angry and outraged at the way the CLP has been hijacked by a minority, and how that minority corrupted and abused the selection process.

I would suggest you look again at the membership lists and find out just how many have resigned out of protest, or how many like me have just not renewed our membership.

But dont ever make the mistake of thinking that we will not be fighting the BNP, or organizing ourselves because we are.

You are just not taking in the anger of many Labour supporters, you are not recognizing it, or admitting it.

And as for that “walter mitty” identity kit laid out chapter and verse by Mr Baldwin or whoever he is calling himself this week there are more of us who can see you for what you are than you would give credit to.

give it a rest will you in dagenham Rodwell and his familys antics are to well known and he aint the saint you are writing him up to be

giving us all a rest then are you, cos youve been bigging him up every where else.

pigeons and roost come to mind

See what i mean, more than any other ward in the borough??????

well on the way to sainthood

Dagenham member,it seems you enjoy having a dig at Mr Rodwell,but what exactly have you done in the borough or in the community apart from using your gob.Or are you just another sad case with nothing useful to say or constructive to do??

“Dagenham Member” you’ve confused me, what party are you the member of?

Because you have yet again sunk to the lowest form of debate, with threats and sarcasm.

As for digging I believe that has already been done, without success and if you are a member of the Labour Party then you start acting like one and not one of the BNP!

@Dagenham member

“do you want us Dagenham members to start digging at your other so-called candidates?”

That is a threat by the way.

The comment on the football team when compared to the CLP was sarcasm.

There you go another lesson

You really need to work on your performance as Arnold Rimmer, because this is very funny.

Do you look in a mirror when nobody is around and salute yourself?

Do you plan on building a throne for yourself to allow all the Councillors you can bully to bow down to you.

Please, I am really enjoying this. The irony is the group I have seen campaigning was very strong in numbers and your dramatics and bitterness are just funny.

I look forward to your reply as I go out to knock on doors tommorrow and try and undo the neglect and laziness of the past.

@Dagenham member,

I would love to see them try. But that is it, this is all you have when it comes to the crunch, empty threats, vile comments and poison.

I am focussing now on doing more volunartary work wherever I can to see Labour do as well as it can across the borough, I’ll be working with real people who really do genuinly care about the area and I will do all I can to support them.

Cruddas, Hodge, whoever, I might not agree with them but they are Labour and I will do all I can to help them from people like the BNP.

I think if you took the time to read through the comments you would find that it is the comments that are made under your alias that seem to have attitude. Littered with threats and sarcasm I think you are a disgrace to the Labour Party and should stand down. You do not represent the views of Dagenham, Barking or any other Labour voter.

Would be really interested to know why Ms Hodge is saying in meetings up town that the council is lost but with help she will get through.

I thought the idea was to totally wipe out the BNP and that includes those on the council.

You state that we should stop spreading viscous rumours, when all that was asked was a simple question of clarification.

Who ever the rabid jackel is posting as extreemly frustrated was obviously not at the meeting in the House with Ms Hodge, Searchlight and the Trade Unions.

And perhaps you need to check your facts out first, you and others seem to believe that any one who comments on here, especially if their comments do not agree with your mantra are deselect councillors or bnp.

Would you please start to give some credit that there are residents in Barking that do read this and do post comments.

Once again the facts as reported are wrong on this blog. Ms Hodge wasn’t present at the meeting in the house with Searchlight and the trade unions (on ministerial duty). But I understand Mr Cruddas and a number of Barking Labour Party members were in attendance with other organisations. A number of points were raised: like there was more of a threat to the council then Ms.Hodges seat and why some unions were still seating on the sidelines.

I would like to suggest to Mr Wade and Anti-BNP before you start shouting from the roof tops you should be better informed.

I would suggest that Terry Wade contacts the Editor of Searchlight who was actually at the meeting with members of the Trade Unions, he will then find that the truth will out.

And as there have been at least 2 meetings at the House M Hodge attending one of them, perhaps the North street mafia as they are begining to be known dont know all that is going on.

And just for your reassurance Terry Wade there is not a 5th column going on here just the truth.

It seems that a source close to Margaret Hodge told the Jewish Chronicle on November 19 2009 that Barking & Dagenham Council could well be controlled by the BNP in 2010. Here we go again! First the reported comments in 2006 regarding 80% of Barking’s electorate possibly voting for the BNP. Now this!

Check it out at the following web address:

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/22052/bnp-will-take-its-first-council-next-election

Why should the BNP bother about electioneering when Labour are doing the job for them?

Thanks for the further information. as for the high and mighty attitude of EFL, it certainly does not help the situation with once again the MP for Barking or her representatives going around saying “im alright, but the council is lost”.

Does “true socilaism” include taking money as a councillor?

Sorry for the speling I am working as I write

Seems to me from what ive heard on the grapevine that mr baldwin is not so averse to taking the money himself, because somehow he has been selected to stand in Mayesbrook.

Bit odd that, as some of us dont believe he is eligible and its a clear breach of the party rules. But when did party rules ever stopy the North street mafia.

FYI Ralph lives in Barking – if you were nicer to him Im sure he would have invited you round for a cup of tea and a chat.But I don’t think he has enough time for hearsay and vindictive lies as he is too busy fighting on the ground for the people of this borough. Its a shame that some of the people who born here don’t have this fighting spirit and direct it in the right way.

Like that one Terry.

People should remember you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

@Barking Member.

Your completely wrong. Should I get elected 1/2 of the standard budget allocated to me goes to the British legion, the other 1/2 goes to a local charity. I don’t need or want the money I am content as I am.

Please do not bring me to your toilet level.

@Terry,

Merry Christmas. I am glad you did, it cheers me.

As 2010 approaches I wish everybody who reads this blog a very Happy New Year. Good health and good luck to all.
I am a politician through and through and will fight to ‘the death’ in the lead-up to May 6th. Socialism will (must) triumph. Over to the elctorate. You will get what you want. Whether what you get is what you will need is another matter.
But, don’t moan afterwards.

(Please do NOT vote BNP)!!

Happy new year Terry!

Hahahahaha and what an interesting New Year it will be! Just read about a chap standing as an independent and UKIP are standing too.

All we need now are some independent council candidates to pin some blame on publically

Out with the old, in with the New!

happy 2010!

AEveryone

Forget it, forget all of this. I shall not be commenting on this site any further I have had some bade news regarding the BNP.

@terry Wade, you may find your right on a “fight to the death”. I shall now be knocking on doors every single day leading up to the election.

Should the BNP claim the Council lives really will be at stake.

To anyone here whose first commitment is genuine and to defeat the BNP and their own political career second, I wish the very best of luck!

Forget all the unpleasantness there are worse things than arguing sociallists and they have to be defeated.

All I want to see is the BNP beaten whether, Mayesbrook is a negligable seat and I shall do all I can for the Party there, but will be available to help out in other wards if anyone feels they need supporting.

Dont worry too much Terry about the so called bad news, there is no bad up to date news on the BNP that you have not been able to find out your self.

Its amazing isnt it, there we have Mr Baldwin who ever he is telling us that of course he qualifies to stand in the Local Elections in the borough, and how hard he has been working etc.

But then Terry mate he doesnt know who you are, bit odd that isnt it.

After reading the newspapers this morning and the proposal regarding immigration put forward by M Hodge, I think I have to ask just how further right is M Hodge prepared to go?

The BNP are going to love the suggestions she has put forward, and many in Barking and Dagenham will be angry that once again she has put her foot in it.