No red-letter day for Greens and their allies

Green and nationalist parties are not the panacea that their enthusiastic supporters claim, says Carl Rowlands

by Carl Rowlands
Thursday, July 22nd, 2010

Like many on the left, I welcomed the 2010 election of British Green Party leader Caroline Lucas as a Westminster MP. The Green Party has many policies to the left of Labour’s. However, this does not mean there are no longer aspects of the Greens, both nationally and internationally, which socialists should find problematic. This was demonstrated by Lucas’ assertion that nationalist parties and the Greens now represent the true left in the British Parliament.

Certainly, the SNP, Plaid Cymru and the Greens have policies that contain socialist or social democratic elements. They are colonising that section of the political spectrum that Labour has abandoned – gradually under Neil Kinnock’s leadership and then more drastically during the Tony Blair and Gordon Brown years. These small parties have identified large chunks of the British electorate left disenfranchised by Labour’s retreat into social authoritarianism and abandonment of genuine working-class association.

Yet the nationalist vision is a poor surrogate for an internationalist project, as voters in Scotland are beginning to recognise. When capitalism asserts its primacy over nationalist objectives, the result is unlikely to be a genuine, sustained and organised challenge to powerful, vested interests. It is far more likely that foreign scapegoats will be sought and blame assigned over the border. This is an easier game to play than old Labour’s historic and sometimes partially successful mission to harness and control capitalism. But the results are far less impressive.

More disturbing than the latent opportunism of the nationalists and Lucas’ over-generous assessment of the Scottish and Welsh nationalists is that, on the international stage, various Green parties have made common cause with some highly dubious nationalists. These people do not embody the moderate nationalism of Plaid and the SNP. They include extreme, flag-waving and parading reactionaries.

In the Republic of Ireland, the Greens have been instrumental in preserving an unpopular right-wing government in office, in exchange for the chance to run the occasional environmental project. The Greens are propping up a discredited administration which has been attempting to pin the blame for the financial crisis on the public sector and those who rely on social security. For the talk of a “Green new deal”, nothing could be further from the expansive and imaginative plans of Franklin D Roosevelt than the cravenly neo-liberal approach adopted by Ireland’s Green-backed  government.

The Czech Republic provides another salutary example. Before losing badly in the recent elections, the Czech Greens had been vocal in their support for George W Bush’s plan to station America’s missile defence on Czech soil. The Czech Greens can be accurately described as a right-wing party, supporting regressive social measures and a largely unfettered free-market.

In Hungary, the leaders of the LMP, a new green party, are aligned with the far right in their exhortations to young people to “return” to an agricultural existence. The LMP can be seen as embodying a political uncertainty that is the mood of many young people in much of Europe. The party argues it is “neither right nor left” and castigates socialism as “a 20th century philosophy’.  (It may actually mean the 19th century or even earlier.) Yet there is little consistency or ambition to its agenda, which switches erratically between socially-concerned measures, such as legislation designed to tackle homelessness, and neo-liberal ideas of deregulation.

All this hints at a philosophical hubris at least as intense as that currently being experienced by socialist parties in Europe, although, as yet, it is less severe. In most countries, the Greens are not so new and their distinctive character has largely evolved from various aspects of the hippy culture of the 1960s and ’70s. The problem is that many of the more convincing hippies in Europe have tended to be middle-class dropouts, with parents wealthy enough support their lifestyle of social experimentation.  It may be significant that Brighton is the main electoral stronghold of the Greens in Britain.

As capitalism experiences a string of crises, none of which appear to seriously threaten its continued existence, the life chances of more and more young people are diminished. The crucial role of unemployment and the impact it has are often missing from Green analytical perspectives.

Some of the more naive members of the Green movement might regard unemployment as a chance to “do something different”.  The truth is that, for the overwhelming majority of people, unemployment is soul-destroying and life-destroying. It is not an opportunity set up an organic juice outlet. The hopelessness of joblessness confirms that capitalist economic rules are paramount. This is extremely painful for all the individuals affected. If whole families and communities are affected, the pain is multiplied accordingly. So a crucial question for the Greens concerns the extent to which they can address this.

Prolonged unemployment reduces someone’s self-worth so that almost any job can become appealing. People are then left insecure and unassertive in the workplace – both less likely to achieve their full potential or stand up for their rights at work. After a spell on the dole, many are forced to make do with work which is deeply unfulfilling. In fact, that is now official British Government policy. But the long-term growth potential of the economy will be adversely affected.

At its best, the Green Party is part of a tradition of English radicalism that includes Tom Paine and William Morris. It is attempting to address many of the important questions, rather than trying to soft-soap its policies in a bid to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Yet already it must confront the big question that has forced the labour movement into its retreat. In a capitalist society, how much scope is there for alleviating the negative effects of war, pollution, social injustice and inequality?

We may talk of a “green revolution”, but it appears to be a revolution which leaves the main bases of capitalism and ownership largely untouched.

Without a comprehensive strategy underpinning an attempt to bring about genuinely transformative change and a plan for a genuine “peaceful revolution”, any piecemeal approach is likely to unravel. Once unravelled, it is very hard to reconstruct. It remains to be seen if the Greens in England and Wales have really got the appetite for serious social change and the conflict with global economic forces that would ensue. On the evidence of what their sister parties in Europe have done, we have to conclude it is unlikely. The great international, financial and political structures of modern capital are not going to come crashing down any time soon.

Carl Rowlands is a member of the steering committee of Labour International’s Central European branch

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Carl Rowlands is on the steering committee of the central Europe branch of Labour International. He lives in Budapest.
  • MeganSims

    Hmmmm Carl – worried about the Greens eh? This piece strikes me as a little rich coming from a sell out Labour hack.

  • MeganSims

    Hmmmm Carl – worried about the Greens eh? This piece strikes me as a little rich coming from a sell out Labour hack.

  • Bryn Tittle

    I do get tired of reading articles about how the Green Party in Ireland, in Germany or somewhere else has sold out. The Green Party of England and Wales is a completely independent party to those parties. Does the British Labour Party have to be accountable for the actions of it’s European counterparts? Of course not.
    It’s also disingenuous to talk of Greens wanting to help people set up ‘organic juice outlets’. The Green New Deal, which the Green Party, along with other organisations, promotes as a means of creating a million jobs in the UK, is about taking practical steps to enable people to save money on their electricity bills through insulation and localised energy production. This is particularly pertinent to those on a low income. It’s also about creating jobs where people use their hands. Not everybody wants to, or is best suited to work in the service sector. So to help people into work it’s important to have a range of jobs. Unfortunately, under recent governments UK manufacturing has dwindled to be mainly the arms trade and I can’t think of anything less internationalist than building weapons for imperialist wars or to protect the interests of multinational companies.

  • Bryn Tittle

    I do get tired of reading articles about how the Green Party in Ireland, in Germany or somewhere else has sold out. The Green Party of England and Wales is a completely independent party to those parties. Does the British Labour Party have to be accountable for the actions of it’s European counterparts? Of course not.
    It’s also disingenuous to talk of Greens wanting to help people set up ‘organic juice outlets’. The Green New Deal, which the Green Party, along with other organisations, promotes as a means of creating a million jobs in the UK, is about taking practical steps to enable people to save money on their electricity bills through insulation and localised energy production. This is particularly pertinent to those on a low income. It’s also about creating jobs where people use their hands. Not everybody wants to, or is best suited to work in the service sector. So to help people into work it’s important to have a range of jobs. Unfortunately, under recent governments UK manufacturing has dwindled to be mainly the arms trade and I can’t think of anything less internationalist than building weapons for imperialist wars or to protect the interests of multinational companies.

  • Carl

    Hi Megan, I’m certainly not worried by the Greens, in fact I welcome their emergence as the main Left alternative to Labour, as it is an alternative which needs to exist and thrive. My concern is really that they are still at such an early stage, both organisationally and philosophically, and as yet have not found a language to define a clear ‘working-class green economics’. And, to be honest, I’m not sure if they ever will. We can see in the Greens’ attitude to trade unions, ‘just another interest group’ that they are not yet clearly identifying themselves with collective activity. At the heart of this I believe is a disconnect between the value and dignity that socialism and unionism has always placed on labour and creation, and the Greens’ own mixed roots in middle-class survivalist movements. But don’t get me wrong, I’ve voted Green in the past, and may yet do again – and a Green New Deal is the kind of thing they need to build on.

    The examples from abroad were to illustrate that philosophically the green movement is still a mixed bag and is often very flaky. This means that it can be dominated by right-wing currents, as well as leftist. Political realities have a habit of stripping down the best intentions into something quite different. So Daniel Cohn-Bendit has an economic policy which seems to be based on small businesses and low wages. Re-invention of green politics – and red politics – is therefore always necessary in order to reinterpret a set of values. At the moment, red and green should be on a collision course as there are so many overlaps. But this is not happening as quickly as I feel it should be.

  • Carl

    Hi Megan, I’m certainly not worried by the Greens, in fact I welcome their emergence as the main Left alternative to Labour, as it is an alternative which needs to exist and thrive. My concern is really that they are still at such an early stage, both organisationally and philosophically, and as yet have not found a language to define a clear ‘working-class green economics’. And, to be honest, I’m not sure if they ever will. We can see in the Greens’ attitude to trade unions, ‘just another interest group’ that they are not yet clearly identifying themselves with collective activity. At the heart of this I believe is a disconnect between the value and dignity that socialism and unionism has always placed on labour and creation, and the Greens’ own mixed roots in middle-class survivalist movements. But don’t get me wrong, I’ve voted Green in the past, and may yet do again – and a Green New Deal is the kind of thing they need to build on.

    The examples from abroad were to illustrate that philosophically the green movement is still a mixed bag and is often very flaky. This means that it can be dominated by right-wing currents, as well as leftist. Political realities have a habit of stripping down the best intentions into something quite different. So Daniel Cohn-Bendit has an economic policy which seems to be based on small businesses and low wages. Re-invention of green politics – and red politics – is therefore always necessary in order to reinterpret a set of values. At the moment, red and green should be on a collision course as there are so many overlaps. But this is not happening as quickly as I feel it should be.

  • http://www.naturalchoices.co.uk Pete Shield

    Carl,
    I just don’t think you get Green politics at all, its not another route to full employment and the empowerment of the working class a la Labour delusions in the 60s and 70s.You can’t bend green politics into your old Labour’s not rather successful political project, but you can start to take a good deep look at aspects of the green movement and see what a thoughtful socialist can learn form it, as can the green movement from the Labour movement.

    At its best Green politics is about a radical transformation of society to move from a materialist value system to a sustainable one, sustainable for the planet of course but also for the people on that planet. High wages only become important when you need to buy in the basic needs for survival and if other means of gratification have become solely commoditised. Fighting for a system where there are lower energy costs, affordable and public housing, communal and affordable public transport, local work, food security, a health system based on public health and not just treating public illness may seem disassociated from your idea of a left wing agenda, but just because it uses a different language if you take off your blinkers you will see strong parallels with, well, old left wing values.

    As for Greens in the UK disassociating themselves from collective action I suggest you stop smoking whatever it is has been tucked away in that pipe of your and have a look around, I am sure the comrades in the Green Trade Union Group may have a thing or two to say about that, as would those involved in a wide range of civil society organisations and campaigns.

    And flaky was just flaying about… Which political party did the man who said there musn’t be a cigarette paper’s different between the Government’s and the Conservative Party’s immigration policy belong too? and I won’t mention the war- both of them.

    Flaky? Have you been following the Labour leaders contest, now from a left wing green perspective it all looks kinda flaky to me.

    There is a great space for debate here, and a lot to be learnt by all. The article however reads like a knee jerk reaction, which isn’t exactly going to get the ideas flowing.

  • http://www.naturalchoices.co.uk Pete Shield

    Carl,
    I just don’t think you get Green politics at all, its not another route to full employment and the empowerment of the working class a la Labour delusions in the 60s and 70s.You can’t bend green politics into your old Labour’s not rather successful political project, but you can start to take a good deep look at aspects of the green movement and see what a thoughtful socialist can learn form it, as can the green movement from the Labour movement.

    At its best Green politics is about a radical transformation of society to move from a materialist value system to a sustainable one, sustainable for the planet of course but also for the people on that planet. High wages only become important when you need to buy in the basic needs for survival and if other means of gratification have become solely commoditised. Fighting for a system where there are lower energy costs, affordable and public housing, communal and affordable public transport, local work, food security, a health system based on public health and not just treating public illness may seem disassociated from your idea of a left wing agenda, but just because it uses a different language if you take off your blinkers you will see strong parallels with, well, old left wing values.

    As for Greens in the UK disassociating themselves from collective action I suggest you stop smoking whatever it is has been tucked away in that pipe of your and have a look around, I am sure the comrades in the Green Trade Union Group may have a thing or two to say about that, as would those involved in a wide range of civil society organisations and campaigns.

    And flaky was just flaying about… Which political party did the man who said there musn’t be a cigarette paper’s different between the Government’s and the Conservative Party’s immigration policy belong too? and I won’t mention the war- both of them.

    Flaky? Have you been following the Labour leaders contest, now from a left wing green perspective it all looks kinda flaky to me.

    There is a great space for debate here, and a lot to be learnt by all. The article however reads like a knee jerk reaction, which isn’t exactly going to get the ideas flowing.

  • Carl

    Pete Shield – saying to somebody ‘you just don’t get it’ comes across as seriously patronising.

    If Green politics is ‘not another route to full employment and the empowerment of the working class a la Labour delusions in the 60s and 70s’ then it must be about a certain type of middle class lifestyle, perhaps. My understanding is that you’re attempting to transcend materialism. Well, fair enough.

    If you trying to survive on the dole earning 65 pounds a week that is so irrelevant. Nobody cares about your consumer habits when you’re on the dole. Socialism is about a type of humanism. The roots of the Green Party are in a Movement for Survival, where, sorry, there just isn’t room on the planet for us all. The Greens are changing, trying to appeal to the trade unions. But how genuine are they? To what extent are they basically Liberal Democrats on mouldy muesli? The angrier the reactions are to the questions I am asking, the more I wonder.

    Do the Greens really want to challenge modern capitalism? Are they reformists or revolutionaries? (By revolutionaries I include those such as Attlee who enacted social revolution through gradualist means). I’ve read what the Green Left and the small Green Trade Union Group have to say. But I’m still not convinced. Many Greens don’t seem to ‘get’ capitalism as a concept. Some do, many don’t.

    There’s no ‘international green movement’ as such. Examples from abroad indicate a Green Party can be Left or Right. The alliance with Nationalists in Westminster is tactical, not strategic.

    So Caroline Lucas is left wing. I’m glad. It’s coming at a time when capitalist pressure on working people, and on vulnerable people, is intensifying. Marx, in my opinion, was right in many ways. The question is, have the GPEW got the brains and brawn to work in helping to organise the working class to transform their social reality? And then the second question, is what should be the reaction of socialists inside the Labour Party?

    These are questions worth asking, in my opinion.

  • Carl

    Pete Shield – saying to somebody ‘you just don’t get it’ comes across as seriously patronising.

    If Green politics is ‘not another route to full employment and the empowerment of the working class a la Labour delusions in the 60s and 70s’ then it must be about a certain type of middle class lifestyle, perhaps. My understanding is that you’re attempting to transcend materialism. Well, fair enough.

    If you trying to survive on the dole earning 65 pounds a week that is so irrelevant. Nobody cares about your consumer habits when you’re on the dole. Socialism is about a type of humanism. The roots of the Green Party are in a Movement for Survival, where, sorry, there just isn’t room on the planet for us all. The Greens are changing, trying to appeal to the trade unions. But how genuine are they? To what extent are they basically Liberal Democrats on mouldy muesli? The angrier the reactions are to the questions I am asking, the more I wonder.

    Do the Greens really want to challenge modern capitalism? Are they reformists or revolutionaries? (By revolutionaries I include those such as Attlee who enacted social revolution through gradualist means). I’ve read what the Green Left and the small Green Trade Union Group have to say. But I’m still not convinced. Many Greens don’t seem to ‘get’ capitalism as a concept. Some do, many don’t.

    There’s no ‘international green movement’ as such. Examples from abroad indicate a Green Party can be Left or Right. The alliance with Nationalists in Westminster is tactical, not strategic.

    So Caroline Lucas is left wing. I’m glad. It’s coming at a time when capitalist pressure on working people, and on vulnerable people, is intensifying. Marx, in my opinion, was right in many ways. The question is, have the GPEW got the brains and brawn to work in helping to organise the working class to transform their social reality? And then the second question, is what should be the reaction of socialists inside the Labour Party?

    These are questions worth asking, in my opinion.

  • Carl

    You must have been angry, Pete. When you say ‘old Labour’s not rather successful political project’ which part do you take as a failure?

    A national health service, comprehensive education, a welfare state of sorts, social housing, an end to the British Empire, liberalisation of sexual politics, an end to the death penalty, accessible higher education, a department of international development.

    Or were they all a figment of my imagination?

  • Carl

    You must have been angry, Pete. When you say ‘old Labour’s not rather successful political project’ which part do you take as a failure?

    A national health service, comprehensive education, a welfare state of sorts, social housing, an end to the British Empire, liberalisation of sexual politics, an end to the death penalty, accessible higher education, a department of international development.

    Or were they all a figment of my imagination?

  • http://www.naturalchoices.co.uk Pete Shield

    Carl
    Must be dehydration at this end- it’s hot in the Languedoc.

    Mind you even in my slightly heady state I think rather a lot of the major achievements that you claim can be put down to that short but wonderful post war Labour Administration, which actually goes to show what a motivated government can do with not a lot of cash.

    I think my emphasis on the failed old Labour project was based more on my life span, and the fact that those old socialist principles have been some what missing in the last Labour decade. The old Labour project is, I totally agree, not without its very important victories. But I meant unsuccessful in terms of the fact that the tearing down of those the majority of those major advancements that was started by Thatcher was enthusiastically continued by the Blair regime.

    But still ‘chapeau’ for the huge investment in schools, hospitals, and the transformation of sectors of the further education. Though can’t say I’m over happy about the destruction of ‘dirty hands’ professional training but that’s probably my own prejudice of having a Masters and still not being able to wire a plug and the fact that their is a huge deficit in skilled local skills. That and my Dad, who taught electrical engineering had to fight to stay in the Union and didn’t get a pay rise for 10 years because he won’t come of the Silver book at his Tech.Also just taking that as an example, 12 years ago Stockton and Billingham Technical College was run by a Head and two Admin staff, 10 years later it had more administrators than educators, but hey that’s just to make sure targets are hit.

    However, seriously what I take as failure is the complete loss of control of old Labour values of the Labour Party agenda. If I was young idealistic political activists in the UK, with the death of the Communist Party and the demise of a socialist Labour Party the only place I would feel at home is in the Green Party.

    For all it faults it seems the most dynamic party on the left, it has a developing national presence, a new and appealing agenda, and what is more it is not mired in a dubious recent past.

    But now is the appero hour and more important things call.

    Pete

  • http://www.naturalchoices.co.uk Pete Shield

    Carl
    Must be dehydration at this end- it’s hot in the Languedoc.

    Mind you even in my slightly heady state I think rather a lot of the major achievements that you claim can be put down to that short but wonderful post war Labour Administration, which actually goes to show what a motivated government can do with not a lot of cash.

    I think my emphasis on the failed old Labour project was based more on my life span, and the fact that those old socialist principles have been some what missing in the last Labour decade. The old Labour project is, I totally agree, not without its very important victories. But I meant unsuccessful in terms of the fact that the tearing down of those the majority of those major advancements that was started by Thatcher was enthusiastically continued by the Blair regime.

    But still ‘chapeau’ for the huge investment in schools, hospitals, and the transformation of sectors of the further education. Though can’t say I’m over happy about the destruction of ‘dirty hands’ professional training but that’s probably my own prejudice of having a Masters and still not being able to wire a plug and the fact that their is a huge deficit in skilled local skills. That and my Dad, who taught electrical engineering had to fight to stay in the Union and didn’t get a pay rise for 10 years because he won’t come of the Silver book at his Tech.Also just taking that as an example, 12 years ago Stockton and Billingham Technical College was run by a Head and two Admin staff, 10 years later it had more administrators than educators, but hey that’s just to make sure targets are hit.

    However, seriously what I take as failure is the complete loss of control of old Labour values of the Labour Party agenda. If I was young idealistic political activists in the UK, with the death of the Communist Party and the demise of a socialist Labour Party the only place I would feel at home is in the Green Party.

    For all it faults it seems the most dynamic party on the left, it has a developing national presence, a new and appealing agenda, and what is more it is not mired in a dubious recent past.

    But now is the appero hour and more important things call.

    Pete

  • Stalin

    We the Labour Party and the UAF are deeply concerned by the attitudes, morals, traditions and customs of the Indigenous British people and their wishes to live free in this country from Labour Party persecution, oppression and Islam. It is clear that the wishes of the Indigenous British must be trampled underfoot. We propose using fascist methods which we know well including the deployment of UAF claw hammer gangs. We must organise and strike using our favourite tried and tested deceptions associated with the doctrines of anti-fascism, anti-Islamophobia, anti-semitism and anti-racism.
    We the Labour Party and UAF are proposing organising Marches of Hate (MOH) across the country under the banner of International Communism, Allah and Islam. We have already got approval from our Marxist friends in the Unions, the Muslim Council of Britain, the Muslim Brotherhood and Islam4UK. We intend to have big marches and if people dont agree with us we will carry placards which will call for the ‘beheading of people’. There could be riots if the authorities and the police do not bow down to our demands and discriminate against British people and make them feel like second class citizens in their own country. Remember we have caused riots before so you have been warned!
    Our intention is eventually to bring about Britians capitulation to our doctrine of International Communism enforced by the EU and Islam. We will force British businesses off the streets, close pubs and places of worship. We will not take rest until our work is done.
    Yes we know our Great Labour Party (Red/Green/Black Coalition) took a beating at the General Election even though we tried to stoke up racial hatred as much as we could possibly get away with. Yes, remember we even threatened there would be riots if the Conservatives got in. The Indigenous people of this country must be threatened and blackmailed into voting for us and our Muslim friends again. We cannot fail world revolution depends on us.
    Our ‘Friends and Agents’ will continue to persecute Christian people worldwide and wherever we find them we will burn their villages, holy books, flags and anything associated with Christianity. Until we get our OWN WAY. We will continue to demand forced marriages of under age girls, polygamy, the removal of women’s rights, the right to earn a living in the race relations industry and build mosques and temples where we want, have halal food served everywhere and allah willing one day we shall occupy Britain and we will have an Iman in No10 and a Minaret over Buckingham Palace.
    Now, more than ever, we must Comrades in the Labour Party, UAF, Jihad supporters, Union Members, MCB Associates and affiliates turn our back on peace and pursue hatred to rid this country of Britishness .
    We stand against the rights of British people in the tradition of fascism, looking to Islam, and ask you to support our National demonstration on Saturday 6 November in London.

  • swatantra

    I cannot for the life of me see any difference between Caroline Lucas and the Labour Party. So why did she stand as a Green in Brighton?

  • http://twitter.com/bryntittle Bryn Tittle

    Could it be because she doesn’t support illegal and costly imperialist war in the gulf? Or that she wants real action not rhetoric on climate change? Or than she’s unhappy with rising inequality? I could go on.

    The Labour Party have become too interested in courting big business as party donors and the financial service industry as marginal tax payers to create a society in which working class people have a decent standard of living. I don’t believe either of the Millibands will change that.

  • swatantra

    Half the LP don’t support illegal wars, and want stricter targets on emmisions, and he redistribution of wealth, erc, and they’re still loyal in the Party. There are other candidates other than the Millibands.

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